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#1 Ornette

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:12 PM

Here is a suggestion, can you specify the format as 2xCD, with the Disk 1 & Disk 2 headings, but each track as A1, A2; B1, B2 etc...?



Title: Various Artists - The Best Of Desert Storm: Live Jungle
Label :  Desert Storm
Catalogue No. :  DSCD1
Release Date :  1994
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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:15 PM

'Updated' track details:

Edit: With thanks to DJ Kryptonn for expanded details on the second disk! (see below, and also here; also Rav here)

Disk 1

A1. Underkut - Both Ends (The Junglites Remix 1)

B1. Jo - R-Type
B2. DJ Nut Nut & Pure Science - The Rumble (Boom Shaka Mix)
B3. Boogie Times Tribe - The Dark Stranger (Q Bass Remix)

C1. Engineers Without Fears - Spiritual Aura

D1. Redskins – Security [unreleased] "...you short motherfuckers betta have your ID..."
D2. Shy FX feat. Gunsmoke - Gangsta Kid

E1. Urban Shakedown feat. DBO General - Calling The People/Arsonist/"Mickey Finn The DJ" (Mickey Finn VIP) [unreleased]

F1. Timmi Magic & ??? - Passing Me By [Decibel DECI001]
F2. Noise Of Art - Rollin' Deep (Smokey Joe Remix 2)
F3. DJ Rap - Digable Bass

G1. Renegade - Something I Feel
G2. Noise Of Art - Rollin Deep (Danny Breaks & Andy C Remix)
G3. Kings Of The Jungle - Lovable

H1. The Junglites - Junglistic Experience (VIP)
H2. Dopeski & Jakes - Snowstorm (Remix)

I1. Blackstar - Sound Clash Dub
I2. Trinity - Gangsta

J1. Urban Shakedown feat. DBO General - Some Justice '95 / Arsonist (Darren Jay VIP) [unreleased]

K1. Tom & Jerry - Maxi(mun) Style Part 2

L1. Leviticus - The Burial (Dubplate 'Amen' Mix) [unreleased]
L2. Brainkillers - Screwface

M1. Roni Size - It's A Jazz Thing (Electric Boogie Mix)
M2. Peshay - The Vocal Tune

N1. Prizna feat. Demolition Man - Fire

O1. DJ Nut Nut - Special Dedication (Ladies Mix)

P1. Bruck Wild  -  Silent Voice  
P2. Tom & Jerry - Maxi(mun) Style Part 1

Q1. DMS & Boneman X - Sweet Vibrations
Q2. The Dream Team - Over You
Q3. Krome & Time - The Licence

R1. [non existent]

S1. [non existent]


Disk 2

A1. (unknown) - (ragga tune, ragga intro "she pretty like a rose and sweet like syrup!") [ CLIP ]
A2. Roni Size & DJ Die – Music Box

B1. Sonz Of A Loop Da Loop Era – What The… Session One (Riots In Raleigh)
B2. DJ Mayhem – Inesse (Ray Keith Rmx)

C1. Gappa G & Hyper Hypa - Information Centre (Ray Keith Remix)
  >> Cutty Ranks - Armed & Dangerous (Goldie Beef Base Mix)
C2. Brainkillers – Screwface

D1. Potential Bad Boy - Have No Fear
D2. Ellis Dee – Can’t Believe It's Real

E1. DJ Dextrous & Rude Boy Keith - Lovable (Remix)
E2. ??? tiniest of intro being mixed in [ CLIP ]

F1. Studio 2 - Who Jah Bless
F2. Dopestyle – You Must Think First

G1. Unknown Artist - Dreadie [Jungle, JJ-01]

H1. Tit 4 Tat – Feel

I1. Firefox & 4 Tree - Warning
I2. Roni Size – Warm & Easy (Ragga Starter) [unreleased]

J1. Tom & Jerry - Maxi(mun) Style
J2. ??? [ CLIP ]

K1. New Blood - Worries In The Dance
K2. Skool Of Hard Knocks – Kan U Feel It (94 Mix)

L1. Tarzan - Watch The People
L2. Berty B & Dillinja – Lion Heart

M1. Rhythm For Reasons - The Love Statement (DJ SS Remix)
M2. Omni Trio – Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)

N1. Roni Size - It's A Jazz Thing (Ladies Mix)

O1. The Junglites - New Jack In Jungle / Who De Bombo Clart (dubplate mix) [unreleased]

P1. System Ex – Mindgames (Dub Mix)
P2. M-Beat – Style (Sweet Girl Mix)


Q1. DJ Ron – Mo Musik (African Lover Mix)
Q2. Deep Blue – The Helicopter Tune (Rufige Kru Remix)

Edited by Ornette, 17 June 2016 - 01:59 AM.

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:26 PM

'Original' track titles:

NB. the listing for the first cd lists two extra tracks that are not present, and is a printing error - as they actually correspond to two unlisted tracks on the second cd

Disk 1:
1. DJ BROCKIE
(DJ Brockie feat. MC Dett)
2. DJ RON
(DJ Ron feat. MC 5-0)
3. DARREN JAY
(Darren Jay feat. MC 5-0, & MC Navigator)
4. JUMPING JACK FROST
(Jumping Jack Frost feat. MC Moose)
5. MICKEY FINN
(Micky Finn feat. MC 5-0, MC Moose & MC Navigator)
6. DJ RANDALL
(DJ Randall feat. MC Moose & MC Navigator, 'The Lick' @ Roller Express, 26/2/94 (Saxon Sound))
7. GROOVERIDER + THE RAGGA TWINS & MC NAVIGATOR
(Grooverider feat. MC 5-0, MC Navigator, Flinty Badman & Deman Rocker)
8. DJ BROCKIE
(Brockie feat. MC Dett (@Return Of The Gods?))
9. DJ RON
(DJ Ron feat. MC 5-0, MC Navigator & MC Moose, 21/10/94)
10. DARREN JAY
(Darren Jay feat. MC 5-0)
11. DARREN JAY
(Darren Jay feat. MC 5-0, MC Moose & Navigator)
12. JUMPING JACK FROST
(Jumping Jack Frost feat. MC 5-0, MC Navigator)
13. JUMPING JACK FROST
(Jumping Jack Frost feat. MC Dett)
14. MICKEY FINN
(Micky Finn feat. MC 5-0 MC Navigator & MC Moose (@Bagleys))
15. MICKEY FINN
(Mickey Finn feat. MC 5-0 MC Navigator (last tune of the night???))
16. GROOVERIDER
(Grooverider feat. MC Moose)
17. GROOVERIDER
(Grooverider feat. MC 5-0)
18. DJ RANDALL
19. DJ RANDALL

Disk 2:
1. DARREN JAY
Darren Jay & 5-0
2. DARREN JAY
Darren Jay & Navigator
3. DJ RANDALL
Dj Randall, MC Det & 5-0
4. DJ BROCKIE
Brockie & MC Det
5. DJ BROCKIE
Brockie & MC Det
6. JUMPING JACK FROST
Jumping Jack Frost with MC Det & MC Moose
7. DARREN JAY
Darren Jay with Mc Moose & Navigator
8. DARREN JAY
Darren Jay with Mc Moose & Navigator
9. JUMPING JACK FROST
Jumping Jack Frost with MC Navigator and Moose
10. DJ RANDALL
Randall with 5-0 and Navigator
11. DJ RANDALL
Randall with MC Det and Moose
12. GROOVERIDER
Grooverider with MC Moose, 5-0 and Navigator
13. GROOVERIDER
Grooverider with MC Moose, Navigator and 5-0
14. JUMPING JACK FROST
Jumping Jack Frost with MC Moose & Navigator
15. DJ BROCKIE
Brockie with MC Det
extra: 16. DJ Randall (with MC Moose)
extra: 17. DJ Randall (with MC Moose and 5-0)

Edited by Ornette, 29 March 2016 - 07:27 PM.

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 12:58 PM

Ornette, on Aug 10 2005, 09:26 PM, said:

'Updated' track details:

A1. Mendoza - "I dont wanna be somebody's accident" ('94 VIP)
(DJ Brockie feat. MC Dett)

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Could be this ...

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/mendoza/men029
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 01:02 PM

Brockie used to play a lot of Junglites stuff so that's quite likely
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 07:52 PM

Ahh so that's what it's called?
Checking the database... WHIRR WHIRR

Yes indeed Mendoza #4 does seem to correspond to the vinyl I have.... Sorry, woulda checked the cat no. but I have none of my vinyls with me.
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 08:17 PM

EDITED:  Tidied my posts, swapped round second & third posts for clarity
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Posted 15 August 2005 - 10:04 PM

bump for myself

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 11:02 PM

A clip of the unknown D1 tune is here: http://people.ku.edu/~cts/misc/ids/Frost1.mp3

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 11:30 PM

Fuck knows what that is...nice, though
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Posted 03 February 2016 - 11:34 AM

Right, I'm turning up to this thread 11 years late but I've got this compilation on cassette. There are 17 tracks on cassette 2 and tracks 16 and 17 are both parts of the same DJ Randall set:

16:

P1. ??
P2. M-Beat – Style [Renk]
P3. DJ Ron – Mo Musik (African Lover Mix) [Rough Tone]

17:

Q1. DJ Ron – Mo Musik (African Lover Mix) [Rough Tone]
Q2. Deep Blue – The Helicopter Tune (Rufige Kru Rmx) [Moving Shadow]

Tape 1 only has 17 tracks as well. I think tracks 18 and 19 listed above on disk 1 actually belong as tracks 16 and 17 on disk 2 (given that they're both listed as Randall). I can sort clips for the unknowns, and will post them in the Tune ID forum later to see if we can complete this.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:06 AM

Got some ID's so here's the full list (compiled from my info plus the info in this thread plus the info in the threads in the Tune ID forum).

DISC 1:

1-01 Brockie  (MC Det)

A1. Underkut – Both Ends (Junglites Rmx) [Mendoza]

1-02 DJ Ron  (MC 5ive-O)

B1. Jo – R Type [Awesome]
B2. DJ Nut Nut & Pure Science – The Rumble (Boom Shaka Mix) [Production House]
B3. Boogie Times Tribe – The Dark Stranger (Q Bass Rmx) [Suburban Base]

1-03 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

C1. Engineers Without Fears – Spiritual Aura [Dee Jay]

1-04 Jumping Jack Frost  (MC Moose, MC Navigator)

D1. Redskins – Security [Unreleased]
D2. Shy FX & Gunsmoke – Gangsta Kid [SOUR – Gangsta Kid EP]

1-05 Mickey Finn  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

E1. Urban Shakedown feat DBo General – Some Justice 95 (Arsonist/Calling The People Mickey Finn Special Mix) [Unreleased]

1-06 Randall  (MC Moose)

F1. Renk Crew – Passing Me By [Decibel]
F2. Noise Of Art – Rollin Deep (Smokey Joe Remix 2) [Suburban Base]
F3. DJ Rap – Digable Bass [Proper Talent]

1-07 Grooverider  (MC 5ive-O, MC Navigator, The Ragga Twins)

G1. Renegade – Something I Feel [Moving Shadow]
G2. Noise Of Art – Rollin Deep… In The Realm Of The Purple Diamond (Danny Breaks & Andy C Rmx) [Suburban Base]
G3. Dextrous & Rude Boy Keith – Lovable [King Of The Jungle]

1-08 Brockie  (MC Det)

H1. Junglites – Jungleistic Experience (VIP Rmx) [Unreleased]
H2. Dopeski & Jakes – Snowstorm (Rmx) [Wardance – The Snowstorm EP]

1-09 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

I1. Blackstar – Sound Clash Dub [Congo Natty]
I2. Trinity – Gangsta [Philly Blunt]

1-10 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose)

J1. Urban Shakedown feat DBo General – Some Justice 95 (Arsonist Darren Jay Special Mix) [Unreleased]

1-11 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

K1. Tom & Jerry – Maxi(Mun) Style (Rmx) [Tom & Jerry]

1-12 Jumping Jack Frost  (MC 5ive-O, MC Navigator)

L1. Leviticus – Burial (Dubplate Amen VIP Mix) [Unreleased]
L2. Brain Killers – Screwface [3rd Party – Border Line]

1-13 Jumping Jack Frost  (MC Det, MC Moose, The Ragga Twins)

M1. Roni Size – It’s A Jazz Thing (Electric Boogie Mix) [V]
M2. Peshay – Vocal Tune [Good Looking]

1-14 Mickey Finn  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

N1. Prizna feat Demolition Man – Fire [Kickin Underground Sounds]

1-15 Mickey Finn  (MC 5ive-O, MC Navigator)

O1. DJ Nut Nut – Special Dedication (Ladies Mix) [Hardstep]

1-16 Grooverider  (MC Moose)

P1. Bruck Wild – Silent Voice [Soundman]
P2. Tom & Jerry – Maxi(Mun) Style [Tom & Jerry]

1-17 Grooverider  (MC 5ive-O, MC Navigator)

Q1. DMS & Boneman X – Sweet Vibrations [FX]
Q2. The Dream Team – Over You [Joker]
Q3. DJ Krome & Mr Time – The License [Tearin Vinyl]


DISC 2:

2-01 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O)

A1. Unknown Artist - Rock Me Tonight [Unreleased] Clip - https://soundcloud.c...desert-storm-94
A2. Roni Size & DJ Die – Music Box [Full Circle]

2-02 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O, MC Navigator)

B1. Sonz Of A Loop Da Loop Era – What The….Session One (Riots In Raleigh) [Suburban Base]
B2. DJ Mayhem – Inesse (Ray Keith Rmx) [Face]

2-03 Randall  (MC Det, MC 5ive-O, MC Navigator)

C1. Gappa G & Hypa Hyper – Information Centre (Ray Keith Rmx) [Ruff Kut]
C2. Brain Killers – Screwface [3rd Party - Borderline]

2-04 Brockie  (MC Det)

D1. Potential Bad Boy – Have No Fear [Ibiza]
D2. Ellis Dee – Can’t Believe It’s Real [Silent Justice – Depth EP]

2-05 Brockie  (MC Det)

E1. Dextrous & Rude Boy Keith – Lovable Part 2 [King Of The Jungle]
E2. ?? Clip - https://soundcloud.c...desert-storm-94

2-06 Jumping Jack Frost (MC Det, MC Moose)

F1. Studio II – Who Jah Bless [Not On Label – ST 002]
F2. Dopestyle – You Must Think First [Ganja]

2-07 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

G1. Unknown Artist – Dreadie [Jungle]

2-08 Darren Jay  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

H1. Tit 4 Tat – Feel [Pursuit]

2-09 Jumping Jack Frost  (MC Moose, MC Navigator)

I1. Firefox & 4-Tree – Warning (Powder Mix) [Philly Blunt]
I2. Roni Size – Warm & Easy [Unreleased]

2-10 Randall  (MC 5ive-O, MC Navigator)

J1. Tom & Jerry – Maxi(Mun) Style [Tom & Jerry]
J2. ?? Clip - https://soundcloud.c...desert-storm-94

2-11 Randall  (MC Det, MC Navigator)

K1. New Blood – Worries In The Dance [London Someting]
K2. Skool Of Hard Knocks – Kan U Feel It (94 Mix) [Grand Larceny]

2-12 Grooverider  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

L1. Tarzan – Watch All The People (Rmx) [Running]
L2. Berty B & Dillinja – Lion Heart [Lion Heart]

2-13 Grooverider  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose, MC Navigator, The Ragga Twins)

M1. Rhythm For Reasons – The Love Statement (DJ SS Rmx) [Formation]
M2. Omni Trio – Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix) [Moving Shadow – The Deepest Cut Volume 1 LP]

2-14 Jumping Jack Frost  (MC Det, MC Moose, MC Navigator)

N1. Roni Size & DJ Die – It’s A Jazz Thing (Ladies Mix) [V]

2-15 Brockie  (MC Det)

O1. T.S. / M.F. – New Jack In Jungle (Dubplate Mix) [Unreleased]

2-16 Randall  (MC Moose)

P1. System Ex – Mindgames (Dub Mix) – Entity
P2. M-Beat – Style (Sweet Girl Mix) [Renk]

2-17 Randall  (MC 5ive-O, MC Moose)

Q1. DJ Ron – Mo Musik (African Lover Mix) [Rough Tone]
Q2. Deep Blue – The Helicopter Tune (Rufige Kru Rmx) [Moving Shadow]

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 01:48 PM

Regarding Disk 2 first track i.e. Darren Jay tune played with 'pretty like rose, sweet like syrup' lyric......

Uncle Dugs played this on his show a couple of weeks back.

He named it a 'Rock me Tonight' and said it was one the hardest tunes he has ever had to track down. He bigged up Darren Jay so guess he went to him direct.

He didn't say it was a dubplate (and he usually does), it sounds like a Jetstar or similar label tune.

Need the ID though!

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 05:12 PM

Uncle Dugs say it's a dub on the show towards the end of the track - "so we roll the Rock Me Tonight dub all the way through". DJ Harmony's dubplate soundcloud page had clips of it from a couple of dubs (one of them previously owned by Mickey Finn), but both were labelled "unknown" so there probably wasn't any artist info written on the dubs.

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 08:20 PM

Wow I'd even forgotten I'd done this thread - well done djkryptonn! Did see your update earlier but got lost in the mix

It's funny looking at these old threads, when we were still marking out the territory for jungle and working out what was what... almost seems unbelieveable so much of this was all still a mystery for so long.

I've gone and updated the first two posts with the info. Couple of comments:

View Postdjkryptonn, on 04 February 2016 - 12:06 AM, said:

F1. Renk Crew – Passing Me By [Decibel]

This was Timmi Magic and someone else, a woman if not mistaken, she put some comments up about it on the youtube video a few years back but they mostly seem to have gone now. Nb. There is no actual Renk Crew credit, or any artist credit on the 12". There's also some info on it here (great article - do read if you have a spare 15 minutes or so):

Gone To A Rave #43: The Untold Story of Renk Records & Incredible
http://www.theransom...enk-incredible/



>> I1. Blackstar – Sound Clash Dub [Congo Natty]

Hmm.... I can't remember right. Is this just the second half of Champion DJ yeah, but listed on the 12" as a second tune?

>> M1. Roni Size & DJ Die – It’s A Jazz Thing (Electric Boogie Mix) [V]

This is just Roni Size I think, only The Calling is a collab?

>> H1. Tit 4 Tat – Feel [Pursuit]

I have been wondering about this attributed artist credit for a while, but just had a look at the discogs entry for this and seems its an update by Dextrous himself, so I suppose it must be correct :rolleyes:


So the CD is the same as the cassette version of it. Have you got a cat no. for it, also any scans if you get a chance would be cool
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Posted 29 March 2016 - 08:33 PM

View Postdjkryptonn, on 03 February 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

Right, I'm turning up to this thread 11 years late but I've got this compilation on cassette. There are 17 tracks on cassette 2 and tracks 16 and 17 are both parts of the same DJ Randall set:

16:

P1. ??
P2. M-Beat – Style [Renk]
P3. DJ Ron – Mo Musik (African Lover Mix) [Rough Tone]

Sorry, run this again, is that Mo Musik on this track, as well as the next?
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Posted 29 March 2016 - 10:43 PM

View Postjj, on 29 March 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

Uncle Dugs say it's a dub on the show towards the end of the track - "so we roll the Rock Me Tonight dub all the way through". DJ Harmony's dubplate soundcloud page had clips of it from a couple of dubs (one of them previously owned by Mickey Finn), but both were labelled "unknown" so there probably wasn't any artist info written on the dubs.
Sorry, finished listening after and heard him say that.
Oh well, another dream over!

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 09:55 PM

Just wondering about the vinyl version also -
http://www.rolldabea...ert_storm/dslp1

From a quick glance, it looks like it mostly corresponds to disc 2 of the cd set, and then just a few of the tracks from the first disc at the end. Does anyone have this to see if it matches up? I notice Haste posts about it here... perhaps he can advise?
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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:52 PM

Also, so it seems, there is a video version as well!!


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Posted 14 May 2016 - 12:20 AM

Right, seems someone else had a go at the tracklisting before http://rolldabeats.c...showtopic=47465. But here's my go.

Most of the video is random footage overlaid with tracks from the CD/LP, but there are some differences. Can't find much info on it on the internet, but there is a 'line up' on the cover that doesn't seem to match the running order. Have a look:

The Best Of Desert Storm: Live Jungle [VHS, DSVD1]
From events: Bagleys? (tracks 3)
'Back By Public Demand' - 2nd July 1994 (tracks 4 - 9)

INTRO: opening credits

Desert Storm feat. Baby Wayne & Michael Rose - Hit After Hit
This is just the tune studio mastered over some opening credits & random footage


1. DJ Ron(?) with MC Navigator

Leviticus - The Burial (Dubplate 'Amen' Mix) [unreleased]
Unique to the video, some random shots of DJ Ron i think


2. Mickey Finn with MC Moose & MC 5-0 :: corresponds to CD 1-14

Prizna - Fire


3. Mickey Finn with MC 5-0 MC Moose & MC Navigator :: corresponds to CD 1-05

Urban Shakedown feat. DBO General - Calling The People/Arsonist/"Micky Finn The DJ" (Mickey Finn VIP) [unreleased]


4. Jumping Jack Frost with MC 5-0 & MC Navigator :: corresponds to CD 1-12

Leviticus - The Burial (Dubplate 'Amen' Mix) [unreleased]
Some actual footage of the tune being played, with the mcs on the stage


5. Randall with MC Moose & Deman Rocker

Dead Dred - Dred Bass
Roni Size - Timestretch
Andy C - Cool Down
Unique to the video, again has some actual footage of the tune being played, in particular during the rewind, and Deman going wild to, Timestretch


6. Randall with Deman Rocker, MC Moose & MC Dett

Andy C - Cool Down
Tom & Jerry - Maximum Style Part 2
Bruck Wild  -  Silent Voice
Unique to the video, but with random footage, seems a continuation of the section above. Sounds like Silent Voice being brought in at the end but person on the other thread id'd as Hard Drive - Hold On?


7. Jumping Jack Frost with MC Dett & MC Moose :: corresponds to CD 2-09

Studio 2 - Who Jah Bless
Dopestyle - You Must Think First


8. Randall with MC Dett, MC 5-0 & Navigator :: corresponds to CD 2-03

Gappa G & Hyper Hypa - Information Centre (Ray Keith Remix)
>> Cutty Ranks - Armed & Dangerous (Goldie Beef Base Mix)
Brainkillers - Screwface


9. DJ Hype with MC Moose, MC 5-0, Navigator & MC Dett

Red Light - Murder Tonight
Unique to the video, with some random shots of Hype


OUTRO: closing credits

??? another Desert Storm / Carl De Junglist, with chuckleberry vocals/chants? "sound killer"



Looks like JJ has been in above with some added details of the events - any ideas on any of the others?

For here, Moose mentions (at 27mins - Maximum Style Pt 2) an after party on "Adam Street, Kingsland High Street behind the Mc Donalds" and suggests that they are at Roller Express, also on the Hype clip Moose says "last one from the Hype" and that it's Randall next - if that's any help

Also I notice at I notice at 38:30 the video focuses in on a Desert Storm logo but has the text super imposed on the Vitruvian Man image... which was the Biology logo... Does that mean Desert Storm & Biology are connected??

Edited by Ornette, 17 June 2016 - 01:32 AM.

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