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[iamdek]

Just casting my eye over congo natty's and noticed my RAS1 is actually etched LION7 ... now, it's deffo not the 2003 Zinc remix ... whats all that about then?

[spoox]

The LION7 version is the re-press released in 2005:

From the list I had some time ago @ http://www.congonatty.com :

LION 001 - Black Star ft Top Cat: Champion Deejay / Kunte Kinte
LION 002 - Conquering Lion feat. Supercat: Code Red
LION 003 - Conquering Lion: Inah Sound / Ras Project
LION 004 - Princess Lydia / Rastaman feat. Beenie Man / Blessed
LION 005 - X-Project ft Frankie Paul & Tenor Fly: Jah Sunshine / ?
LION 006 - Black Star: Radical (DJ Kane Remixes)
LION 007 - Tribe of Issachar ft Peter Bouncer: Junglist (DJ Zinc Remix)
LION 008 - Unknown: Original Sess (Police in Helicopter) / Yes Selecta
LION 009 - Tribe of Issachar: Tribal Natty (97 Mix) / Tribal Natty (Original
Dubplate Mix)
LION 010 - X Project ft Junior Reid & Supercat: Banana Boat Man* / Press
Button*
LION 011 - X Project: Set It (original mix)* / Ghettogheddon*
LION 012 - Rebel MC: Calling (original dubplate mix) / Jungle Flow*

* = these are actually not represses, but first-time-on-vinyl releases of old tunes previously just heard on dubplate back in the day

(And yes the original LION series only had 1, 2, 3 and X1)

[iamdek]

spoox, on Jun 14 2005, 09:21 PM, said:

The LION7 version is the re-press released in 2005:

<puzzled>

This one I have here contains the same tracks as the RAS1 copy I had (and sold). It has the exact same RAS1 PROMO label and I bought it from a bloke who's collection spanned 1994-1998 and contained no other repress tunes ... so I fugured this may not actually be a repress.

[Ornette]

Iamdek,

referencing my personal Tarzan database, done in MS Access back in 1999 etc... *yawn*

yep, my Junglist is indeed etched LION7

[Ornette]

spoox, on Jun 14 2005, 10:21 PM, said:

The LION7 version is the re-press released in 2005:

From the list I had some time ago @ http://www.congonatty.com :

LION 001 - Black Star ft Top Cat: Champion Deejay / Kunte Kinte
...

Can't find any of this on your site, and this page here is not linked anywhere either:
http://congonatty.jungli.st/new_old.phtml

Some interesting info on that page, which is worth referencing

[Marlztah]

same here,

Tribe of Issachar ft Peter Bouncer - Junglist - LION007

had this way before 2005, 1999 i got it i think, off a bloke who stopped buying jungle in 97

[haste]

Yup...my copy is the same!

[geist]

haste, on Nov 17 2007, 01:51 PM, said:

Yup...my copy is the same!

while we are on the topic of congo natty, can anyone please answer the question I posted in this thread? It's been driving me nuts, the white label just sits outside myshelf, I don't know where to put it....

police in helicopter cat# confusion

[haste]

geist, on Nov 17 2007, 04:31 PM, said:

while we are on the topic of congo natty, can anyone please answer the question I posted in this thread? It's been driving me nuts, the white label just sits outside myshelf, I don't know where to put it....

police in helicopter cat# confusion

You're probably getting no joy form that thread cos no one knows the answer!

Congo Natty cats are a nightmare and I don't own that 12" so can't comment

[Ornette]

An answer has been offered... :smile:

[Ornette]

iamdek, on 13 June 2005 - 09:09 PM, said:

my RAS1 is actually etched LION7

Right, let's get this straight... my copy of RAS1 "Junglist", I have it right in front of me... it's etched
LION 7A -¹ b/w LION 7AA -1

Nothing else in the run-out grooves - incidentally, RAS2 (also with me) is etched as it says on the label
They are definitely both originals, I remember I was quite eager to get Junglist at the time, also had just got my decks when the second came out so was on the look out for new tunes.

spoox, on 14 June 2005 - 10:21 PM, said:

The LION7 version is the re-press released in 2005 :

From the list I had some time ago @ http //www.congonatty.com :
LION 007 - Tribe of Issachar ft Peter Bouncer: Junglist (DJ Zinc Remix)
...
(And yes the original LION series only had 1, 2, 3 and X1)

Well, that must be a typo, as the list you mention was originally up from maybe sept 2004 onwards.

Does any one have this LION 007 "repress"? From my investigations here it seems it surfaced around jan 2003, and the clip I've traced for it does seem to be one of the remixes

This does also beg the question of what even happened with 4, 5, 6...


And what is this?
http //rolldabeats.com/release/30063/congo_natty_records/congo001
I have conflicting details about what's on it, would like to confirm

[Ornette]

another ref on the forum of this...
http //rolldabeats.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=43726

[Ornette]

Does any one know anything of this LION 007 'repress'??

Also –
　LION 009 - Tribe of Issachar: Tribal Natty (97 Mix) / Tribal Natty (Original Dubplate Mix)

Is this meant to be a direct repress of RAS11 or something, unsure
http //rolldabeats.com/release/2406/congo_natty_records/ras11

Ornette, on 11 October 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

This does also beg the question of what even happened with 4, 5, 6...

Going by my research here on the 'RAS' & 'ZION' sequences, looks like 6 would well have been avoided.
Which means really only 4 & 5 now.

I'm thinking about the "Original Ses" release-
I see its been paired with the other side, "Yes Selectah", twice, both as this LION8 and CONGONATTY3. Which makes me wonder if it was an intended release back then.

JJ - do you know any instances of Police In Helicopter being played, can't remember for sure but do somehow think it was something I heard bitd... surely not later than 1994 though. Previous to "Champion DJ", must be

[jj]

Ornette, on 02 November 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

JJ - do you know any instances of Police In Helicopter being played, can't remember for sure but do somehow think it was something I heard bitd... surely not later than 1994 though. Previous to "Champion DJ", must be

I don't think I've heard it on any sets from around 1994. Can you remember if it turned up in any of the dubplate collections?

[Ornette]

No, I don't think it did, and I don't specifically remember it from the time... what is somehow familiar is disjointed nature of the tune, where the Top Cat vocal ends, then with the breakdown & then the John Holt sample dropping in

Like, as in maybe I heard it the once, and then the memory of it was obliterated by "Champion DJ" getting favoured by all the big names in the scene?

I note that "Yes Selectah" is in a couple of sets, from earlier in that year
Jumping Jack Frost - Roast 'The Bank Holiday Bonanza' - 30.04.1994
Bryan Gee - 'Dread At The Control' - April / May 1994

That's obviously an older tune, with its very 'hardcore' styled bassline