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#1 Phokus

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 12:42 PM

Break name: Amen

Artist: The Winstons
Track name: Amen Brother
Original release: 7", The Winstons - Color Him Father / Amen Brother
Label: Metromedia
Cat number: MM-117
Year: 1969
Drummer: G C Coleman

Also available on: The Winstons - Color Him Father (Metromedia, LP);  DJ Pogo Presents: Block Party Breaks Vol 2 (Strut)

Example: Equinox - Acid Rain (Breakage RMX); Renegade feat Ray Keith - Terrorist

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 12:53 PM

As used in:

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/outsider/outside003 - Side A

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/inperspective/inp008 - Sides A and B

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:35 AM

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#4 Phokus

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 08:26 AM

Note: clip is taken from the UBB series, the break in the original is not pitched down like that.

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 10:30 AM

View PostPhokus, on Nov 2 2005, 07:26 AM, said:

Note: clip is taken from the UBB series, the break in the original is not pitched down like that.


do you want a clip of the original amen?

#6 Phokus

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 10:46 AM

I have one, thanks. Waiting for haste's home net connection to come back up, then the files I sent him, Amen included, can be uploaded :)

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 11:09 AM

this might interest you stimps ,I was talking to ed solo the other night and he has the amen brother on seven inch and he says that because it's in stereo that one channel is the bukem amen and the other is the ray keith amen , well thats what he said anyway and he said that he has a copy of it on cd (probably the dj pogo cd) but he says thay made it to be mono in case anyone wants to sample it

Edited by blah, 08 November 2005 - 01:17 PM.


#8 Phokus

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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:41 PM

Clip added

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Posted 30 December 2005 - 03:02 PM

View PostPhokus, on Nov 30 2005, 10:41 PM, said:

Clip added


I've got this on vinyl with volume 2 of 'Ultimate Breaks & Beats' Cat - SBR 501

When it gets to the break its as if whoever was mastering it decided to press the '33' button on the record deck to provide a slower loop.  I can see why they did it, these ultimate breaks and beats albums were aimed at the block parties in the bronx for the early emcees to rap over.

I assumed everyone was sampling it from the 'ultimate breaks...' source but after reading here I realised that people are using the NWA clip.  Which leads me to think thats why my amen never sounded as nice as on the d&b tracks I'd buy.

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Posted 30 December 2005 - 05:13 PM

Not all are using the NWA break.  Its got its own distinctive sound with the "hey - yo!" vocal snippet.  Try getting the 12" release I saw floating around a few years back (a US release?)

Someone here also suggested that the two stereo channels sound different to each other too. Try using one or the other, rather than mixing down the channels to mono?
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Posted 30 December 2005 - 06:03 PM

Cool, I've just compared them in a wav editor and it looks like the 'Ultimate Breaks & Beats' version is identical in both channels, well at least on my 2 copies of the vinyl which may well be a repress (bought about 5 years ago from Tempest in Birmingham).  I'll have to see if I can find another source.

Interesting to note there is a wikipedia article dedicated to this break. Great stuff :)

#12 Phokus

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Posted 30 December 2005 - 06:31 PM

Look for the DJ Pogo compilation mentioned in the first post - nice clean version on there :)

#13 Ornette

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Posted 30 December 2005 - 07:23 PM

I really wanna see some sort of interview with that drummer G.C. Coleman  
Is there any out there?  What on earth must he think about this  unprecidented mass obssesion with 5 tiny seconds of his musical life?
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 02:23 AM

View PostOrnette, on Dec 30 2005, 08:23 PM, said:

I really wanna see some sort of interview with that drummer G.C. Coleman  
Is there any out there?  What on earth must he think about this  unprecidented mass obssesion with 5 tiny seconds of his musical life?

Did you watch the Amen documentary, that seems to be about as much as anyone knows about him.

#15 Phokus

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 03:50 PM

now on myspace  :laugh:

http://www.myspace.com/theamenbreak

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 08:46 PM

http://www.myspace.com/amenbros :-)

I have the metromedia 7" original and yes both channels are different, i managed to pick it up at a bootsale for 20p :-D

if anybody wants the actual original break then just ask

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 08:35 PM

View PostMrMooncat, on Feb 25 2007, 01:46 PM, said:

http://www.myspace.com/amenbros :-)

I have the metromedia 7" original and yes both channels are different, i managed to pick it up at a bootsale for 20p :-D

if anybody wants the actual original break then just ask

yup
L & R are different.

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 08:52 PM

mint and it didnt come in a sleeve it was at the bottom of a box between 2 records :)

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 01:15 PM

Excellent documentary on the Amen break and the history of sampling. Well worth a watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:15 PM



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