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(Run DMC &) Aerosmith - Walk This Way


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#1 selectabwoy

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:15 PM

Had a good search through the forums and not seen this mentioned, but I'm reluctant to add this as a breakbeat unless someone confirms or rubbishes my theory.
Isn't the extremely well-known opening break used in the intro of Lemon D's Urban Style Music?

Run DMC: https://youtu.be/4B_UYYPb-Gk?t=34s
Lemon D: https://www.youtube....h?v=caNn5AiaNFs

I know the Run DMC break is straight from the original song but somehow I can't see Lemon D owning a 1975 Aerosmith LP.
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#2 Chinny Reckon

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:28 AM

The break on the original 1975 version and the Run DMC version aren't the same though. There may well be samples in there but the Run DMC version's break is at least partially recreated with a drum machine. It does sound like the Lemon D track possibly samples the Run DMC break.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:54 AM

The Aerosmith track does feature on the Ultimate Breaks & Beats vol. 12 release

Quick listen slowing down suggests its the original beat, and not the fattened Run DMC varient

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:59 AM

View PostChinny Reckon, on 03 October 2017 - 02:28 AM, said:

The break on the original 1975 version and the Run DMC version aren't the same though. There may well be samples in there but the Run DMC version's break is at least partially recreated with a drum machine.

Yeah its probably not samples at all, thinking about it. Breakbeats hadn't started being sampled at that point, and if you compare to Peter Piper for instance you'll see the break only comes in off the Jam Master Jay cutting

#5 Chinny Reckon

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:39 AM

That's not strictly true- some of the earliest uses of 'Impeach the President' date from 1986 (the same year as Run DMCs version of 'Walk this Way'). MC Shan 'The Bridge' came out in 1986 and according to at least one website was actually made as early as 1984.

#6 Ornette

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 06:26 PM

Yes you are right, Marley Marl managed to find a way of integrating individual sample hits to his drum beats. I'd put "Marley Marl Scratch" as possibly an earlier example.

Alledgedly "The Bridge" existed as a demo underground version all the way back to 1984, but I'd doubt if that had any samples in it

However, thinking again about "Walk This Way" yes I think Jam Master Jay does cut in the break over the intro beats doesn't he...? not listened for a while but seem to remember some scratching