haste Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 These labels are very confusing, I have so many that are different to what are in the database at the mo. Some 12s that have the same cat no but different tunes. some releases that are on differetn label and have diff cat nos (& even different artists listed) but have the same tunes as ones that are up there already. I think it might be time to do a re-haul of the labels. For a start we need to add "U No Dat"and "Ruff Groove" as labels which is linked to De Underground. I'll go through my tunes and list up what I have on vinyl and it might be cool for other people to do the same as I can see loads of tunes that I have that aren't in there but they are all whites so I have no idea about what the tracks are called :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted September 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Also Reel 2 Reel/IE recs should be linked to De Underground, they were all run out of the De Underground shop. Someone correct me if I'm worng about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komando Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 on ruff groove i got RG01 Narrow Boy Narrow Boy EP ill dig i out and find a tracklisting later if someone doesnt post it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komando Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 also got on IE altho it say de underground records on the label IE005 A Sides A.Feeling GoodB1. Future 3B2. Done It Again its here but the infoz wronghttp://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...elease&id=18658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Manipulator Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Since we're on De Underground I've got a question:Does anybody know if the 1997 vocal track "Poltergeist" from Kirsty has been released, and on which (sub) label??? But one I *THINK* I saw first time around, but seems to be gone from the database now:Label: De UndergroundCat: DUG1Artist: Flex & FatsA: D.X.7B: Big Up Ruff groove:RG001Artist: UnknownTitle: Narrow Boy EPNo tracklist. http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2858 also has a Ruff Groove label... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2858 also has a Ruff Groove label... what is the catalogue number of that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Manipulator Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2858 also has a Ruff Groove label...what is the catalogue number of that one? The catalogue number is HN05, just like the one listed for De Underground. But it's got a Ruff Groove logo on one side and printed text on the other. So since the official release is under De Underground it's probably best to leave it there, also regarding the catalogue number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted September 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 OK - U No Dat First UG002 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=2855)A1: Asides J - RizzlaA2: Two Tone Project - Let It GoB1: Asides J - News FlashB2: Asides J - Groove Parameter HN11 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=14840)Cool Hand FlexA: Hah-YehAA: Shackout UG20 Flex (Cool Hand Flex)A: DangerousAA: R.A.W.(different from http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...elease&id=2874) HN06 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=14835)Cool Hand FlexA: With YouAA: Future Remix the 3 with links to other versions i've only ever seen with U No Dat labels, not oddball or de underground and I've seen a few copies over the years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted September 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Oddball now (PS Oddball has a wicked logo ) http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2857Cat No = UG44 tracks Also I have another UG4 2 tracksA: Champion SoundAA: Lose Control i've got a few of the ones that you have in the db and they are all correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted September 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 De Underground http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2883i have this....doesn't have oddball labesl but doesn't have de underground ones either, does say P & C De Undergound at the bottom though, not sure which label this shoudl really go under http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2882my copy = de underground recs http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2877my cope = de underground recs http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2875my copy = de underground recs white label - UG5has written on it"De UndergourndFlex FinalProg 3"3 tracks - 1 on A, 2 on AA IE4De Underground Records Vol 1The (Flex) ProgramA: BassrushB1: Livin XtasyB2: Welcome http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2881have this on a white, has "Underground" written on it, not Oddball ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted September 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Ruff Groove? http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=2864has ruff groove labels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted September 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 pretty sure that pure nrg should be linked to this lot too http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=l...655&show=tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Well here's the next question. Are we going strictly by the etching?? Cos some of em eg: Flex - Dangerous / R.A.W have different cat#s on the label than on the etching. That one for instance has RG20 on the label and UG20 on the etching. I think it would be wisest to ignore the labels and strictly use the etchings. The cat#s HN, RG, UG etc seemed to be all interchangeable and had no relation to what label they were on anyway. And just to make it even more confusing In Touch should also be linked as that was another sublabel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted December 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 yeah go with the etchings, not what's printed on the labels. thought that in touch was linked to em already....that one definitely needs to be in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan J Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 I've always felt that Cool Hand and the kru were right piss takers with the way they did they're cat. nos. etc! It doesn't make any sense at all . . . I mean, personally I don't feel that any of the tunes that I've got that are listed on this site as 'U No Dat' arn't 'De Underground' . I have them stored as 'De Underground' I was contemplating in a bored moment moving all cool hand related tunes under 'De Underground' rather than Oddball, Ruff Groove etc . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamdek Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Here is what I have ... more confirmations than new stuff .. but it should help clarify a few of the cat#'s and labels ... HN04 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=14833)U No Dat (was stamped on the A side)http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/hn04.jpg HN07 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=14836)De Undergroundhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/hn07.jpg HN09 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=14838)In Touchhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/hn09.jpg IE004 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=18657)Whitelabelhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ie004.jpg INT3 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=20511)In Touchhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/int3.jpg PE002 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=15468)Pure NRGhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/pe002.jpg RG001 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=14853)Ruff Groovehttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/rg001.jpg UG04 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=2857)Oddball logo on one sidehttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug04.jpg UG05 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=2859)Oddball logo on one sidehttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug05.jpg UG07 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=2861)Oddball logo on one side and white on the otherhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug07.jpg UG26 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=2880)Whitelabelhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug26.jpg UG27 (http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=release&id=2881)De Undergroundhttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug27.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamdek Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Had a rummage around Ebay to see if any more info could be had from the listings on there ... maybe it'll help ... but it'll more likely cause more confusion HN09 The other HN09http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/hn09a.jpg HN21 Ebay listing matches Tarzan listinghttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/hn21.jpg IE006 Listed on Ebay as a 4 track 1992 release on IE Records titled 'Flex Programe Part 2'http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ie006.jpg INT002 The tracklisting in the Ebay description matches the above cat# listed on Tarzan.http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/int002.jpg UG01 A version of the Oddball logo under De Underground text ... work that one out!!!http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug01.jpg ??? (UG03)[strike:6d0962c117]Listed as a 2 track whitelabel titled 'Oddball 3' from 1993. No info other than that and this rather poor image.[/strike:6d0962c117]Scrap that ... this us UG05 ... doh! :oops: http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/oddball3.jpg UG25 Listed as a 2 track whitelabel on De Underground. So it looks like the proper release was done on In Touch as per post above.http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug25a.jpg And a few images for listings on Ebay that contained no info .... http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/steptoit.jpghttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/mmr.jpghttp://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/rideon.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 these labels give me headaches :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted May 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 UG25 Listed as a 2 track whitelabel on De Underground. So it looks like the proper release was done on In Touch as per post above.http://clients.miuk.com/dan/ebay/ug25a.jpgyeah i have this on proper release with in touch labels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamdek Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 INT002 http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...elease&id=19105 Realiably informed from someone who has this that it doesn't actually have Hold Back on it and is just a labelling error ... so In Touch #2 should just be this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamdek Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 yeah i have this on proper release with in touch labels Yep ... I have this as well with the In Touch labels. The pen written ones must have been tests or promos before the did their lottery to decide which label to release it on :wink: Looks like the credit could also go to Mike De Underground and not Flex as he's credited as being the engineer :?: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dankew/ug25%20-%20label%20-%20side%20a.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dankew/ug25%20-%20label%20-%20side%20b.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamdek Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=5934 This one is actually etched INT005VE http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dankew/int005ve%20-%20label%20-%20side%20a.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dankew/int005ve%20-%20label%20-%20side%20b.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamdek Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 http://tarzan.spoox.org/display.php?type=r...release&id=5929 Just some label scans for this one ... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dankew/int001%20-%20label%20-%20side%20a.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dankew/int001%20-%20label%20-%20side%20b.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Looks like the credit could also go to Mike De Underground and not Flex as he's credited as being the engineer :?:Yeah, you're right...looks like Flex only did the "Ing" for that release :roll: :? :? :? :? :? :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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