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#1 kuli

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 12:07 PM

Need ID'd this one:

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#2 Bhima

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 01:49 PM

I'll check it when I get home.

Got a link to the set anywhere? Haven't heard that one.

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 01:58 PM

I've been after this tune ID for a while too . . . I've got the rest of the tracklist, just not that tune!! It's the fourth track that needs IDing. Will upload the set if you want Bhima . . .

1. The Mystics - PFM
2. The Instrumental - Q Project
3. Sands Of Time - Oblivion
4. ???????
5. Horizons - LTJ Bukem
6. Relics - Studio Pressure (Digital Remix)
7. Sweet Sunshine - Ils and Solo
8. Soul Searchin - Photek and Tayla
9. One And Only - PFM
10. Awakenings - The Sentinel
11. Atlantis - LTJ Bukem
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 03:13 PM

Getting the set uploaded would be nice.

I really believe there should be a sticky regarding this track. I have been wondering about it for a long time and so have many other people.

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 03:55 PM

No need to upload it. Here's the link:
http://www5.spread-it.com/dl.php?id=a69189...8f94654d61d1e61

#6 Bhima

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 10:08 AM

Ah, this old one! :wub:

It's been listed in the big Bukem Unknowns thread for some time under "buk95-2.mp3" - http://www.rolldabeats.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37766

I'm pretty sure it's Photek. In fact, i'm 100% sure he's involved. It's totally his style and the amen break also has his trademark metallic sound later on, due to that delay effect he loved so much. It's either him, or it's engineered by him, i'm sure of it.

Thanks for the link, by the way!

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 11:05 AM

It should be noted that track number 4 is actually the X-Files-Intensity and the beloved unknown is number 5.

The unknown has to be Photek, Source Direct, Peshay or even Intense.

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 05:40 PM

I was thinking maybe a Alex Reece/Wax Doctor type thingy... the embelishments on the ambients reminds me of some of their works
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Posted 15 December 2006 - 06:37 PM

I felt it was a Source Direct tune . . . has their typical ambient pads and that amen they use to roll it along . . . though considering it was a 1995 tune it could well be Photek, who also had a similar sound. Perhaps we should keep an ear out for the Unreleased Photek Album, eh?
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Posted 15 December 2006 - 07:05 PM

Unreleased Photek... I wonder what that thread on DOA is saying lately?

I reckon the 'remixed' track mentioned probably is, if anything, the One Nation.  There was mentions on the net that the tune got pulled due to the uncleared vocal samples in it so if anything that may be the tune least lilkly to see light of day. Shame, as its the only track I'm interested in.  Although the System Ex - Say It/Version Remix would be nice to see on plastic (not the b-side of PRO006)
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Posted 15 December 2006 - 07:31 PM

Has anyone ever confronted Bukem about this track? He has to know what it is as it featured in so many of his Speed era sets. This is not just another lost 1993 DAT or some such.

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 10:19 AM

View PostSynthetic, on Dec 15 2006, 06:31 PM, said:

Has anyone ever confronted Bukem about this track? He has to know what it is as it featured in so many of his Speed era sets. This is not just another lost 1993 DAT or some such.
I used to bug him on AIM a lot but he never got back to me... If he did it would just be a "sorry... don't have time to listen right now..."

Someone else should try - i've not been on AIM in ages...

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 10:27 AM

View PostJava, on Dec 15 2006, 05:37 PM, said:

I felt it was a Source Direct tune . . . has their typical ambient pads and that amen they use to roll it along . . . though considering it was a 1995 tune it could well be Photek, who also had a similar sound. Perhaps we should keep an ear out for the Unreleased Photek Album, eh?
I don't know... It's that crazy metallic effect that I only ever heard Photek use in long passages - Source Direct used it but minimally. It has Peshay written all over it too -  listen to the sounds and compare them to "The Piano Tune"! This was around the time that Peshay and Photek were blowing up on the Streetbeats label together so perhaps it could be a colab.

However, i've never heard Photek go that deep whereas Peshay has - and the structure of the tune doesn't sound like Photek or Source Direct, it's more of a PFM/Peshay-type arrangement.

...i'll stop there! I can get real geeky with this stuff at times!

I sent a message to photek on myspace though so, maybe he'll clear this up at some point.

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 03:20 PM

View PostBhima, on Dec 18 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

I don't know... It's that crazy metallic effect that I only ever heard Photek use in long passages - Source Direct used it but minimally. It has Peshay written all over it too -  listen to the sounds and compare them to "The Piano Tune"! This was around the time that Peshay and Photek were blowing up on the Streetbeats label together so perhaps it could be a colab.

However, i've never heard Photek go that deep whereas Peshay has - and the structure of the tune doesn't sound like Photek or Source Direct, it's more of a PFM/Peshay-type arrangement.

...i'll stop there! I can get real geeky with this stuff at times!

I sent a message to photek on myspace though so, maybe he'll clear this up at some point.

Excellent. I hope he replies. Since we are on the subject of Streetbeats I wonder if the entire Streetbeats back catalogue has been checked with regards to this track?

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 07:45 PM

View PostBhima, on Dec 18 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

I don't know... It's that crazy metallic effect that I only ever heard Photek use in long passages - Source Direct used it but minimally. It has Peshay written all over it too -  listen to the sounds and compare them to "The Piano Tune"! This was around the time that Peshay and Photek were blowing up on the Streetbeats label together so perhaps it could be a colab.

However, i've never heard Photek go that deep whereas Peshay has - and the structure of the tune doesn't sound like Photek or Source Direct, it's more of a PFM/Peshay-type arrangement.

Hmm still not convinced! What of The Piano Tune can you hear in here? The metallic effect = a flange. I wish I had the Streetbeats catalogue to check!
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 01:36 PM

View PostJava, on Dec 18 2006, 06:45 PM, said:

Hmm still not convinced! What of The Piano Tune can you hear in here? The metallic effect = a flange. I wish I had the Streetbeats catalogue to check!
I meant the Piano and the atmospheric sounds - the way they're engineered sounds like Peshay.

I have the whole of the Streetbeats catalogue and, trust me, it's not one of them. :sad:

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Posted 19 December 2006 - 04:55 PM

View PostOrnette, on Dec 15 2006, 08:05 PM, said:

Unreleased Photek... I wonder what that thread on DOA is saying lately?

I reckon the 'remixed' track mentioned probably is, if anything, the One Nation.  There was mentions on the net that the tune got pulled due to the uncleared vocal samples in it so if anything that may be the tune least lilkly to see light of day. Shame, as its the only track I'm interested in.  Although the System Ex - Say It/Version Remix would be nice to see on plastic (not the b-side of PRO006)

Damn, I've got Say It, didn't know there was another version.  What's it sound like?  Better than PRO 006?

Doh, just remembered that I've got EYE01 white label with Say It.  Don't know what the PRO 006 is.  Is the EYE01 release rare?  I turned up two copies and gave one away to my mate Juicer.

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Posted 19 December 2006 - 06:08 PM

The Third Eye & Entity releases are both the same. I think they are both fairly rare, but not stupidly, and not worth that much. Prototype #6 only ever made it to the test press stage I believe. No idea how many were pressed and amongst who they were curculated. I know Doc Scott, Bailey and Ray Keith had copies, but I doubt any were in the shops as promos.

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Posted 20 December 2006 - 03:43 PM

So, is System X a Photek alias?  Or have I got the wrong end of the stick there?

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Posted 20 December 2006 - 04:44 PM

View PostBhima, on Dec 19 2006, 12:36 PM, said:

I meant the Piano and the atmospheric sounds - the way they're engineered sounds like Peshay.

you know peshay didn't do his own engineering, right?

and yes, system x = photek