Ornette Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Break name: Mantronix Amen Artist: MantronixTrack name: King Of The BeatsOriginal release: Join Me Please... (Home Boys - Make Some Noise) 12"Label: CapitolCat number: V-15386Year: 1988Drummer: Also available on: Example:Bay B Kane - Good Good Sensi Notes:Early hardcore tracks often used this track as a source for their 'amen' breakbeat. However, it doesn't sound very nice on a 45rpm really, does it, and has long since been relegated to the scrapheap as a drum & bass breakbeat... Clip: HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted September 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 This is the amen used in Lenny D Ice - We I.E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phokus Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Clip added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Manipulator Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Original 12" info added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I happened to notice this beat being used out & about the other week in a new tune apparently by Skitty. Can be heard at the end of this set: http://soundcloud.com/rupture/skitty-live-from-rupture . Good to see this variant hasn't been forgotten about. Otherwise, can be heard used in: Omni Trio - Renegade Snares (Rollin' Roasted Mix) Also, how amazing to see King Of The Beats being used in the recent William Hill advert - that was pretty awesome to hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 WilliamHillFootball.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Couple extra examples to give you the idea : Dillinja - side B, track 1 'Rastafari'http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/deadly_vinyl/dill06/ Digitech - side B, track 1http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/cybotron/dill07/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyDavid Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Mwuhahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJWtERIVIA Seriously what the ... ? No further explanation needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Mwuhahaha Satin Storm "Lets Get Together" Seriously what the ... ? No further explanation needed.Are you talking about how badly quantised it is? It is pretty rough, although at the time I don't remember being particularily bothered by it, I spose we had to make do with what we got and it all was pretty lo fi back then (late late 92)... saying that there was talk of a remake of this not so long back and the other one "Think I'm Going..." which is as well, almost unacceptably rough to today's ears. I don't know why they were so badly done, not all of his stuff was like that... Maybe he intended them to be like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyDavid Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Are you talking about how badly quantised it is? It is pretty rough, although at the time I don't remember being particularily bothered by it, I spose we had to make do with what we got and it all was pretty lo fi back then (late late 92)... saying that there was talk of a remake of this not so long back and the other one "Think I'm Going..." which is as well, almost unacceptably rough to today's ears. I don't know why they were so badly done, not all of his stuff was like that... Maybe he intended them to be like that... Yep, the quantizing. Let's call it rough. Maybe he had a hardware sequencer and had to record the notes and didn't know how to quantize after. Funny about the remake though, I was planning to do that. But meh, I'll just give it a remix. About the lo-fi stuff, I understand that gear was limited and expensive at the time. You know I built my entire studio of cheap gear they used to use back in the day, but they probably just has one Akai S950 and Atari OR just an Amiga without a mixer... But that's all part of the fun. I love lo-fi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyDavid Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Are you talking about how badly quantised it is? It is pretty rough, although at the time I don't remember being particularily bothered by it, I spose we had to make do with what we got and it all was pretty lo fi back then (late late 92)... saying that there was talk of a remake of this not so long back and the other one "Think I'm Going..." which is as well, almost unacceptably rough to today's ears. I don't know why they were so badly done, not all of his stuff was like that... Maybe he intended them to be like that... He also might have taken a piss y'know. Because the tune is actually pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Let's get together is hardcore to the fu**in' bone, absolute killer. He would of known it was rough quality and poorly quantized as other Satin Storm tracks eclipse this in both categories. Love the mashed 808 bass!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyDavid Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Let's get together is hardcore to the fu**in' bone, absolute killer. He would of known it was rough quality and poorly quantized as other Satin Storm tracks eclipse this in both categories. Love the mashed 808 bass!! Underneath the rust and mud there is an absolute banger. When I listened again and again to the quantization I started to appreciate the tune 'Ardcore you know the score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 This is actually a bit more ubiquitous than I first thought. This is the big amen drop heard inAndy C - Cool Down also:Interception - Feel It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 not forgetting Ricky Force's contribution to the Amen Warfare album 'Unclean'... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaDHJNLga4 available to purchase as digital download from all good online stores now http://www.junodownload.com/products/1875164-02.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted May 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Otherwise, can be heard used in:Omni Trio - Renegade Snares (Rollin' Roasted Mix) Looks like I mentioned Omni Trio - Renegade Snares (Rollin' Roasted Mix) As way of note, there's a mix of this Renegade Snares on the album, labelled Rob's Reconstruction Mix, that I've always wondered about. Its ostentiably the same, but there was always something different about it that I couldn't put my finger on. Well, I've figured it out. The original Rollin Roasted mix uses this, the 'Mantronix' amen, where as the reconstructed mix is using a plain 'flat' amen in it It also has a few other changes that are more obvious, such as some vocal samples during the breakdown not in the orignal mix and slight other deviations. Incidentally a discussion came up on the 'beautifully crafted' fb group which might shed some light on this. David Davies (of DJ Trax/Mix Race fame) speaks of a hard drive crash at Moving Shadow where a number of tunes in progress got losthttps://www.facebook...47119128740843/ So maybe this Rollin Roasted mix now only exists on the vinyl... unless there's a CD single? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeeee-mk2 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Pretty sure you can get the "Rollin Roasted" mix digitally along with the rest of the Shadow back cat - I have an mp4 which I think came from Itunes and it sounds clean and digital as opposed to a vinyl rip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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