Stimpy Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I look through threads in this section where people are asking where a sample comes from originally. I keep seeing people just randomly guessing ..."ooh it could be this... maybe it's this because they share the same title" well that's completely unhelpful imo. If you don't actually know then don't bother guessing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorie Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I disagree, the whole point in this section should be to discuss where the sample may be from. A guess could be correct, or at least jog someone's memory as to where they'd heard it before :smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimpy Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I disagree, the whole point in this section should be to discuss where the sample may be from. A guess could be correct, or at least jog someone's memory as to where they'd heard it before :smile: Well I guess it depends how much of an educated guess it is. people suggesting things that are blatently the wrong genre, or even gender, because one word is the same aren't really helping anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbler Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 guessing is what leads to misinformation. i fully agree, if you want to guess, then do so, check your guess, and THEN post. it's easy enough to confirm guesses FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Java Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Yeah I thought that was a little bit of a harsh opener . . . to be fair people are only trying to help, and if the guesses are so blatently wrong then you don't need to bother with it. There's no need to curse people who are just trying to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phokus Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Innit. It's really not the end of the world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbler Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 yeah but it really bugs me when i end up arguing with people who are so adamant about some sample that they haven't confirmed http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?t...urial+leviticus ^^^ had to argue with someone about the burial sample sources as he thought it sampled copacabana, and didn't bother to actually check it, but DID argue with me about it :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Java Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 There's a big difference to the quality of responses on RDB than on DOA!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimpy Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 I wouldn't say I was harsh, just to the point. I didn't use bad language or anything... if anyone took offense I'd say they're more over sensitive than I am rude. This forum... especially this part of it... is used as an information resource. If there's people just randomly guessing sample sources etc then it's making the information unreliable and incorrect. Apologies if anyone actually was upset by the way I wrote it - I've re-read it and don't see why they would be but apologies anyway just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procleus Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I wouldn't say I was harsh, just to the point. I didn't use bad language or anything... if anyone took offense I'd say they're more over sensitive than I am rude. This forum... especially this part of it... is used as an information resource. If there's people just randomly guessing sample sources etc then it's making the information unreliable and incorrect. Apologies if anyone actually was upset by the way I wrote it - I've re-read it and don't see why they would be but apologies anyway just in case. I don't think it's harsh at all. It's a waste of time to read a thread that you think has a lead, and it's actually someone pretending to know something. I check all my claims beforehand now, didn't use to like 3 or 4 years ago. Then I got frusted that my sample inquiries were responded to by "maybe it's this", and decided not to be like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Manipulator Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 But still it's better to have a founded educated guess than somebody stating it's a certain tune... while it isn't! (though when it's easy enough to verify that should be left to the person submitting the source, not requesting the ID). Due to sample based artists usually not bothering to really look for samples, educated guesses usually work rather nice (mainly for vocals though). I mean, if you search for lyrics and get a hit it's usually a good chance that's the "song" that was sampled (though not necessarily the version).(If I see a tune called "Hypnotizin'" I've got a pretty good guess what they sampled...) For my original sample list I've gotten a lot of ID's that I knew were wrong. But for a lot of them I'm just not able to verify them, so if they look decent enough I added them (and sometimes only now seeing it's wrong). And as I also said in another thread: nowadays it's much harder to pinpoint samples. With sample license cost skyrocketing it's cheaper to have a sample replayed. Take Matrix & Sonic - Flashlight. It uses Yes - Owner Of A Lonely Heart. But does it sample Yes? Or the Max Graham version? Or a replayed version? There are still some samples I haven't been able to verify because I wasn't able to find the original (or for that matter can't remember which DnB tune sampled it). But if an ID for it comes up, I'll still put up the info on what I've got as an ID but wasn't able to identify. (though I admit in the thread this refers to I was a bit too much on the guessing side...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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