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    camden tunes 3

    It's mistitled on the compilation there, is actually the AA side "Treat Me Right" that's included
  2. Found another usage, this time a lot later (2001)... Dylan & Loxy - End Of Days (Remix) https://www.discogs.com/release/9366-Dylan-Loxy-Mindmachine-End-Of-Days-Remix-Epidemic
  3. Is it too much to ask to get some sort of meaningful response to any of this?
  4. Only one I can think of is Unit 1 - Love Me [Creative Wax] but that's 1994 https://www.discogs.com/release/76956-Unit-1-Atlantic-Drama-Love-Me
  5. Hey! Sorry for long time getting back. Just checking out the break now. Was about to say I'm not sure this one is being used in the Cold New Yorkin', though turns out I am familiar with it from its use in Tim Dog - Step To Me [1991]... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucruBnaBlk Actually, no I think you're right, it's that bit exactly at 0m04s that's being used, with the held piano tone! Further more, that drum roll from the very start is being used here & there also Looks like the King Sun track is also helpfully back on youtube as well: I see there's a bit at 3m01s where whatever the "2001" loop is being overlaid with, is playing clean, though I don't recognise it. And then a tamborine part overlaid to that to finalise it off. Good spotting
  6. Right, so I'd like to continue by looking a bit closer into this 'SHARE' sequence... So going by this posted in the old thread, Share was set up by someone named String who was a relative of Stooge - clearly this detail got mixed in translation with Haste assuming at the time the quote meant String had a share in Reel 2 Reel, but no. The first reference making a connection with 'String' I can find is RR008 (listed above) which - as per the image on Discogs - is rubber stamped 'G. STRING DISTRIBUTION AGENCY' with the number '081-806-0739' directly underneath. It seems a fair bet then that 'String' must be G-String, who seemingly got involved during 1991 with the distributing of releases out to the record shops. What I'm wondering then, is whether this 'SHARE' sequence is directly the initiation of the Telethon '92 branded releases; that being, precisely the initiative of G-String wanting them to 'share' with the wider community and make a contribution to charity: SHARE001 Raw From China "More Bass" / "Mover!" / "Welcome" / "Psychotic" 1991 SHARE002 2 Boasters, A Digestive & A Jammy Dodger (3 tracks) 1991 First two releases here are white label only – The first is simply written in pen 'RAW FROM CHINA', assumed as the release title though on later advice from A-Sides (via Dara) was adjusted to being the artist name. It's unclear where the track titles for it came from. It's also unclear where these slot in with the Reel 2 Reel releases, whether somewhere inbetween RR006 - 009 or maybe even after. The second is definitely 1991, from a feature in Blaze magazine #5 (pub. mid-Oct 1992) Nookie mentions about this release stating: "How long ago did you start working in Red Records? About 4 years ago. Then about 1 & a 1/2 years ago it turned into Unity Records which I ran for a little while. Just as I left Unity I brought out my first House record under the name of 2 Boasters, A Digestive and Jammy Dodger, a track called Large Southend Donut (L.S.D.)." I'm just trying to remember when Red Records (Soho) became Unity... I'm pretty certain when I purchased my copy of NWA – Efil 4 Zaggin there 'under the counter' it was Unity at that point. Having a look now indicates the album was banned in the UK from 11th June - 7th Nov 1991, and I was quite eager to get my hands on it at the time. With this in mind it would seem Nookie must have left before the end of 1991 which would put the SHARE002 release around then also. SHARE003 A-Sides – Mix To The Max (4 tracks) 1992 SHARE004 Raw From China – Raw From China II (3 tracks) 1992 Whereas the final two are full branded Telethon '92 releases – The first has clear artist & release title designations printed, whereas the second (in comparison to the first) has only the release title printed. Again, artist designation for that as also being Raw From China appears to be on advice of A-Sides. Additionally, the full printed label on the other side confirms the sequence as Share Records - indicating as a collaborative effort between G-String Distribution, Reel 2 Reel Record Company, and Graphite Tour Management. There's no reason to believe either of these two full branded Telethon '92 releases appeared anywhere near the broadcast date of Sat 18th July 1992, remember ITV Telethon had been running for a few years by that point, and solicitations for contributions would have began far in advance, likely well back into 1991. Though, the fact they do have '92 printed would point towards these two at least arising in 1992; not only, several more of these branded releases were to come. The Telethon '92 releases then continue (and pick up on the Reel 2 Reel sequence) as follows: RTR010 ??? – Into The Twilight Vol. 1 (3 tracks) 1992 RTR11 Uncle 22 – Dub Wise II Vol II (4 tracks) 1992 Given the Share sequence has to be where the Telethon '92 branded releases are initiated, it follows that these two must have come directly after. At this point must be where the 'JGS' sequence arises. There is no explicit label designation for these, though the lettering makes me believe these must have also something to do with G-String
  7. Any takers? @nebkins ?
  8. Right, I've had a read though of the legacy threads on here plus Dara's one from discogs that Haste mentions here, but would to go through it again. Most of these are now properly listed on discogs but still some questions remain. I'll link directly to the appropriate entries to make things easier. Some standardisation of the cat nos. & artists has been done: R+R01 Sudden Impact "Game Of Love" (4 mixes) 1990 RTOR00Z Dubwise II "Trojan" (2 mixes) 1990 RTOR003 Various – Back To Attack Vol. 1 (6 tracks) 1990 RTOR4 Dubwise II feat. Stooge – Bad Boy Bass EP (6 tracks) 199– The Broadcrest etched codes on the first & second releases – PA4590 & PA4672 respectively – point towards mid-1990 for these two, and as far as I'm aware that early mix of "Made In Two Minutes" on RTOR003 has always been considered '1990' (one reviewer here states as 'sept 1990'). Any suggestions on #4? At this point, two releases from the sequence are missing - #5 & #6. My guess is this is what came next: RTOR Various – We Are I.E. (4 tracks) 1991 Etched simply as RTOR, though the promos for it are stamped IE-001, my guess is this must be the #5 in sequence.. 'May 1991' was given on submission for this variant Around here I believe is where HN001 must surface, nominally the 'first' release for De Underground... Could this in fact be the #6 that's missing? As I don't see any sign otherwise, unless someone else has a possible candidate. The I.E. Records releases continue as following: IE002 Various - I'll Be Back EP (4 tracks) 1991 IE003 Flex & Uncle "Party Time" / "Odd Ball" 1991 IE3 Uncle 22 "To The Core" / "Drums Of Peace" / "Pain" 1991 IE4 Flex – De Underground Records Vol 1 / The Program (3 tracks) 1991 IE5 A Sides – De Underground Records Vol 2 (3 tracks) 1991 IE006 Flex – Program Part 2 (4 tracks) 1991 The first three as listed are marked or printed 'RTR', confirming at least the sequence as sub-label of Reel 2 Reel. As can also be seen there are two different #3 releases – IE003 and IE3. Does anyone have a view on which of these two came first? Interestingly as has been noted elsewhere, the IE003 one is actually etched NH02 in the run-outs, suggesting as subsequent to the aforementioned HN001 release. Remaining Reel 2 Reel's for 1991: RR007 ??? – MDA Vol. 1 (4 tracks) 1991 RR008 Various – Back To Attack Vol. 2 (5 tracks) 1991 RTR009 Various – Test Press (4 tracks) 1991 A comment in the release history suggests RR007 as August 1991, a review on RR008 suggests as being Sept 1991 (also mentions about a later 'remix' of one of the tracks - what release is that?); and Nebkins in the reviews suggests RTR009 as Oct 1991 (nb. at least one of the tracks appears to be an 'answer' to Prodigy's "Charly") If not mistaken then, subsequent catalogued releases after this point are all 1992. There is also a 'Share' sequence that starts somewhere, with at least two of the releases from 1991 – the first Raw From China 12" plus the 2 Boasters, A Digestive & A Jammy Dodger release
  9. Does this tracklisting correspond to any of those in listed in the first post, unsure?
  10. Orca - Get On One https://www.discogs.com/release/82436-Orca-Dances-With-Dolphins-EP-No-1
  11. Does everyone agree I've given evidence of at least one magazine stating November on the cover, even though still in September yeah?
  12. Right, so – the problem with this @djkryptonn is that some of these dates - especially here where you are correcting, are hopelessly vague. When I was going through, I was attempting to put any explicit date stated on the cover in single quotes, italicised, so that we could know that this was an explicit date given. Any where a date wasn't explicitly stated, I placed a question mark in square brackets, so to indicate this was an estimation of the issue's nominal date The quandary with this being, is that whatever date, usually a month, given on the cover is usually a very poor indicator as to when the magazine was actually published. For instance, from visting WH Smiths just now, there are magazines out right now with November on the cover, despite that we are still currently in September(!): Prospect - November 2024 Cosmopolitan - October/November 2024 From what I understand, the industry standard has been for a very long time to have a month date on the cover of the month proceeding, with this slipping to even more than that on occasion, like as seen here with 'November' issues published towards the end of September. I think I first noticed this with an issue of Your Sinclair in the 90s. This would as well be the same problem I have with some the dates you sometimes cite @jj of like Month/Month. Like, which is it? Is it the earlier month? The later month? It can't be both Ideally, I would like to drill down a little more specifically on the publish dates of these magazines. You can see I have done that with Ravescene, which I'm confident are reasonably accurate given that the publication was based around week boundaries. Other magazines published around month boundaries we might have to accept in more woolly terms like 'mid-month' or 'late-month' but this still would be helpful. I would propose that we list as #issue, with any 'explicit date' in single quotes otherwise simply yyyy, then followed by a more accurate date in form (p: dd/mm/yy). Sometimes this will be estimated, other times this might be something actually stated (the Blaze magazines seem to have stated quite frequently when the next issue was due). I'm not too sure how we might differentiate that however.
  13. Video posted on this. Has he credited you I wonder
  14. Ha ha, couldn't resist - no that's not a version of "Set It" I've heard before, it's different to the release from early 1999 (which DJ Kane has disclaimed knowledge of) and also got vocals from "Let Jah Be Praised" interspliced so definitely a unreleased vip. I don't think it's two tunes there either but just the one Set's also running at around 175-176bpm there, pushing to 178 though drops to 173 for "Set Speed"... and hmmm gets even slower for "Reality" / "Roll On" (~170bpm). Interesting
  15. Ornette

    Kool FM - 1994

    That Saturday line-up - of Pressure X & Times Two, into Easy D (with MC Stingray?) and then DJ Kane looks familiar. I think that was in place from at least spring 1993. For some reason I used to listen in a lot on that Sat morning time slot
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