Pro One

[Ornette]

There's a couple of things that occured to me about the details for the Pro-One label that I thought I'd bring up / ask about.

 

Consulting my own personal 'tarzan' database... (you know, the one I etc...)

WHIRR... WHIRR...

 

Right.

Pro-One release #16 is titled "6 Track E.P." and this is true for both the two copies I have of this record. It's written on in ballpoint pen.

 

It has the following cat. no. etched: PROM 16T

[Ornette]

Pro-One - 6 Track E.P.

 

Here's where it gets interesting.

NO track names are offered, but you will discover that track B-3 is

Hoppa (Original Mix)

 

That's because track A-1 on the Pro-One release #17 is the extended 'remix' of Hoppa.

What? You don't believe?

Well my Pro-One #17 has the word "Hoppa" written on it (in the same ballpoint handwriting) along with the legend "Pro-One E.P.". It IS a remix of the 3rd track on side B of the 6-Track E.P.

 

What's that? Circumstantial evidence?

Well what about this:

Code K - Hoppa (U-O-Me Mix)

 

THIS IS THE THIRD MIX OF THE SAME TRACK!!!

 

The 'original' mix of "Hoppa" is a charming, subtly done and very SHORT track.

The 'extended mix' is good, but perhaps is a bit 'overkill'

The Bay B Kane remix is excellent - a completely new kettle of fish! Top notch!!!

 

No doubt the artist is Hoppa too but the track is definitely called "Hoppa" as well

[Ornette]

More Pro-One - 6 Track E.P. stuff...

 

Now could I be wrong, but have known of a Pro-One tune for ages that is apparently called:

Run The Guillotene

 

I am pretty certain that it originally dates from late 1992, is probably one of the first ever tracks to use "timestretch" (albeit in a subtle, sensitive way), and has this sped up vocal sample dropping in every so often:

"Reasonable!" .

 

Well, funnily enough this track also turns up on this "6-Track E.P.". as well, as the second track on side B. This tune has just got to be originally featured on another release, because July/August 1993 is just too late.

 

Hmmm.

[Ornette]

Extra more Pro-One - 6 Track E.P. stuff.

 

If track B-2 IS called "Run The Guillotene" and it was originally released on another 1992 released 12", then track B-1 is in fact...

Run The Guillotene (Remix)

 

(in reality the two assertions are not dependant on each other at all, actually...)

 

Yes, track B-1 is most certainly a remix of track B-2.

 

Thank you.

[eXtreme]

Even more to add !

 

Track 2 on the B side is the same track that appears on :

 

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/pro_one/prone8t (track B1 with the "Raise the Bones" sample)

 

also track B1 on the prome16t is a remix of this track.

[thijs]

would this mean that the 6 track ep is by higher octave?

[eXtreme]

and has this sped up vocal sample dropping in every so often:

"Reasonable!" .

 

 

the sample is "Raise the Bones" as sampled from the film 'Willow'

[eXtreme]

would this mean that the 6 track ep is by higher octave?

 

some are & some are by hoppa.

 

A1. ??

A2. ?? (same beats as a hoppa track on PRONE17T)

A3. ??

B1. Higher Octave - ?? (same Track B1 on PRONE8T)

B2. Higher Octave - ?? (Track B1 on PRONE8T) Remix

B3. Hoppa - ?? (later released as Track A1 on PRONE17T 'Pro One eP') but fades out early

 

year: 1993

 

still a bit of a mess, not knowing the track titles.

[Ornette]

Track 2 on the B side is the same track that appears on :

 

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/pro_one/prone8t

(track B1 with the "Raise the Bones" sample)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ahh so whats where it originally came out on.

"Raise The Bones" aye? I reckon that must be the track title

 

Did you ever hear of the track title I mentioned, then?

"Run The Guillotene" is quite similar really, in a 'chinese whispers' kinda way. Maybe someone at the distributors misheard the details!

[Ornette]

B3. Hoppa - ?? (later released as Track A1 on PRONE17T 'Pro One eP') but fades out early

 

year: 1993

 

still a bit of a mess, not knowing the track titles.?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm sorry, but I must insist this tune is called "Hoppa". It was known as this for PRONE 17T everywhere I went.

Not to mention the evidence from the Code K/Ruff Guidance release.

And it's not just a longer version that's on the PRONE 17T release either -

there's a number of differences to it to distinguish from the original.

[eXtreme]

ahh yes you are correct, going by the remix aswell makes sense.

 

ive always thought the artist was hoppa as in 'hoppa & bones' but just looked & its 'Hopa & bones' so not that at all.

 

 

 

Pro One blurb from discogs :

 

""Pro-One Records was formed in the East End of London in 1992 as an outlet for the growing underground hardcore scene. Early releases such as Hopa's "Raize The Bonez" and Utomica's "Rockabye" featuring Hopa, Martin Lee-Stephenson and label boss David Salvi were instant club hits. Pro-One also released Law and Auders early Jungle recordings including "Who Run Tings" featuring Martin Lee-Stephenson and Phillip Earle who later formed the record company of the same name. Pro-One later released many early Drum & Bass recordings, both pre and post amen.""

 

 

also just seen the pro one EP listed for sale as "Hopa & Bay b kane - Pro one EP"

[Guest blah]

i'll find my copy and help you out on this , I just used to call it the pro one mini lp as it just helps simplify it when narrowing it down , and it could just be all the same artist anyway.

[Guest blah]

DAMN.. I dent have this anymore and i think I sold it to a mate when i got "raise the boat" and "outta control" on 12, I will try my best but the geezer i sold it to i'm a bit distant towards him at best at the mo but I will try ,

for the sake of rdb (heh heh)

[eXtreme]

after a little investigation ive found: Higher Octave are 2 people, Hopkins & Salvi.

 

Hopa (from hopa & bones fame) is D.Hopkins

 

so i would say PRONE17T should read like this:

 

 

Artist: Hopa (some say with Bay B Kane)

A. Hoppa

B1. ??

B2. ??

[Ornette]

Now could I be wrong, but have known of a Pro-One tune for ages that is apparently called:

Run The Guillotene... and has this sped up vocal sample dropping in every so often:

"Reasonable!" .

 

the sample is "Raise the Bones" as sampled from the film 'Willow'

Yeah eXtreme, just to clarify, you're right - Im wrong - "Run The Guillotene" is another song entirely - I've just heard it (thanks to B2VOS).

 

"Run The Guillotene", the different tune, and is on this release here:

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/pro_one/prone12t

A1. Submania - Run Da Labrynth

B1. Submania - Rok With Me

 

 

Cheers! :smile:

[Ornette]

Turns out that the track "Rok With Me" (on PRONE 12T) is another of the tracks featured on PRONE 16T too, albeit as a remix. Not sure of exact track placing but I'm certain its track A1

 

So here's my updated tracklistings for PRONE 16T

 

 

A1. Submania - Rok With Me (Remix)

A2. ?? (same beats as a hoppa track on PRONE17T)

A3. ??

B1. Higher Octave - Raise The Bones

B2. Higher Octave - Raise The Bones (Remix)

B3. Hopa - Hoppa (Original Mix)

[Ornette]

Bump - can you put these corrected details?

 

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/pro_one/prone16t

 

Various Artists - 6 Track EP

 

A1. Submania - Rok With Me (Remix)

A2. ?? (same beats as a hoppa track on PRONE17T)

A3. ??

B1. Higher Octave - Raise The Bones

B2. Higher Octave - Raise The Bones (Remix)

B3. Hopa - Hoppa (Original Mix)

 

I'll dig this out soon and try and see if I can confirm what the tracks A2 and A3 are

[Ornette]

couple of mistakes

 

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/pro_one_records/prone8t/

B1. Raise The Bones

 

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/pro_one_records/prone16t

A1. Rock With Me (Remix)

B1. Raise The Bones (Remix)

B2. Raise The Bones

 

http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/pro_one_records/prone17t

A1. Hoppa (Remix)