thijs Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 and now i want to know... is rufige kru just a alias for all of goldie's collabs? i have see tracks and websites crediting rob playford, danny j, 4 hero and dego for being part of rufige kru... can anyone shed some light on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 I always thought Rufige Kru was strictly Goldie himself. :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 rufige kru was goldie & dj freebase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 dego & rob playford are mentioned alongside rufige kru because they engineered tunes for goldie & freebase. goldie didn't engineer any of the early reinforced stuff, they were all done by the 4 hero boys which is why they sound similar to a lot of 4 hero stuff from the time. round about when goldie made angel rob playford started engineering goldie's stuff, you can tell who engineered what as the styles are different. the timeless lp was done by playford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted June 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 dj freebase? never heard of him :? did he do any solo tracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 no, don't think he's done any solo stuff i'm pretty sure he co-wrote terminator too, but not 100% on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phokus Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Rufige Cru to me is Goldie + whoever happens to be engineering his stuff at the time. The engineering on the Terminator EP is credited to DJ Freebase and Markus "Co-pilot to the stars" Rutherford for "Rufige Cru Productions" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phokus Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Any ideas how we're going to deal with this in the database? The database currently says Rob Playford and Goldie (in that order!), which clearly isn't the case for a lot of the entries. Especially as we seem to have the unreleased Rufige Cru LP in the database as well, which is presumably Goldie & Tech Itch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 i'd say rufige kru == goldie. one the future features will be assigning an engineer to a track, that should solve the optical/playford/tech itch problems (i guess) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorie Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 no, don't think he's done any solo stuffi'm pretty sure he co-wrote terminator too, but not 100% on that one<{POST_SNAPBACK}> he says in nine lives who he wrote it with and who engineered etc. I'll dig it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 i vaguely remember something about dj freedom, no idea where i got that from though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 DJ Freedom?! That's wrong. Rufige Kru is basically Goldie. In the early days he wrote tunes with Freebase but they parted company over 10 years ago. It's just one of the names he uses when he's making tracks. Nowadays it will just be him and an engineer, Rob Playford should not be listed under this alias he should just be the engineer on several of the tracks, just as Dego will be the engineer on lots of the early ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phokus Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Yeah, the introduction of the "Engineered by" field would certainly smooth out this issue. It was Freebase who worked on Terminator, according to the record sleeve itself. Incidentally, Freebase has recently been hosting the upstairs room at Herbal on Metalheadz club nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 What we really need is the introduction of timelines in artist histories Freebase really needs to be listed as co-writing Terminator (not engineering it) but he should not be present on the newer releases Sorry Thijs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 aah.. i meant freebase not freedom (close though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorie Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 According to Goldie, Rufige Kru = Goldie + 'Toby Linford' Mark of 4Hero engineered Terminator. Goldie also cites Mark Rutherford as an engineer on some of his tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 According to Goldie, Rufige Kru = Goldie + 'Toby Linford' Mark of 4Hero engineered Terminator. Goldie also cites Mark Rutherford as an engineer on some of his tracks.Where is this info taken from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorie Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Where is this info taken from?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Goldie's autobiography 'nine lives' http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title...OK&title=369789 it has a whole chapter about terminator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...:en-US:official says that Goldie, DJ Freebase and Mark Rutherford made Terminator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phokus Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 It's all very confused, really. A lot of the early Rufige stuff on Reinforced seems to have come out of jam sessions with Marc Mac, Dego and Goldie (and maybe others) messing around with sounds, pushing things to the limits of technology then, sampling a mentasm, twisting it, resampling it, twisting it some more... i believe that's partly where the term "rufige" originated, to describe the rawness of the nth generation samples. According to Nine Lives, Terminator was the last thing that Linford worked on with Goldie. He left the studio early with a very early draft of Terminator on the go, and left Mark [presumably Rutherford] & Goldie (and a large amount of E, according to the book) in the studio... and the result of the session without Linford was Terminator as we know it now. Apparently Linford was stunned by the end result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorie Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 According to Nine Lives, Terminator was the last thing that Linford worked on with Goldie. He left the studio early with a very early draft of Terminator on the go, and left Mark [presumably Rutherford] & Goldie (and a large amount of E, according to the book) in the studio... and the result of the session without Linford was Terminator as we know it now. Apparently Linford was stunned by the end result. If you read it again it seems more like it's mark out of 4hero on the session. But it isn't clear. But it definetly refers to Toby Linford as 'the other half' of rufige kru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phokus Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 It's not clear at all, is it! I read it again last, and came to the conclusion that he was referring to Rutherford, not Marc Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorie Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 It's not clear at all, is it! Yeah, the way it's just thrown down gonzo style can be quite confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve J Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Rufige Cru is Goldie + whoever produced with him on that particular track/EP. For e.g Marcus Rutherford on Terminator, Marc Mac/Dego on Darkrider, or Rob Playford on the track Fury (Shadow) Steve J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-Hawk Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 METH 060 & METH 060p both credit the production of Goldie's "Say You Love Me" as follows: Written & produced by Rufige Kru (Goldie & M.Caro aka Tech Itch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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