Ornette Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Break name: Coming On Strong amen Artist: Rebel MCTrack name: Comin' On Strong (Shut Up & Dance Remix / Ragga Mix)Original release: 12" http://www.rolldabea...ecords/wantx38rLabel: Desire RecordsCat number: WANTX 38RYear: 1990Based on: The Winstons - Amen, Brother Examples:USI - RevolutionBizzy B - Revolution (Remix)DJ Deckjammer - R.I.P. Danger Notes:With thanks to SpecialJustin for pointing me to the correct source! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 For some reason this track has always reminded me of Rebel Mc - Comin' on strong. Revolution sounds like it might have a bit of the beginning of this in it..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 by jove you are right... Is there an instrumental version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I think there is 2 bars open at the start. Sounds like Bizzy B layered a few breaks and then added some hi hats. He really did squeeze alots of sound out of his Amiga!The instrumental is of the original, just with out rap, making it one of my all time favourite tracks, but doesn't have the break from Revolution. Love like a rocker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Actually i have just had a mess with the beat in a wave editor and it is the source. Both have the reverb tail of the guys voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Well, that's interesting. I know if you start running heavy compression on the first bar of amen, there is a reverb-ey sound that begins to form on the first hit, and - even more interestingly - that distinctive 'tick, tick, tick-tock' sound which rises to prominance. But I couldn't work out how Bizzy B had quite managed to make it sound like that.... Now I can see Shut Up & Dance accentuates it by adding those rim shots over the top and the reverb tail you mention. Looks like that is the sample source... I'll update the first post soon! EDIT: Shut Up & Dance, not Rebel MC Edited May 26, 2016 by Ornette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Bit of context. Rolldabeats USI Rebel AMEN.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Because of this thread i have mostly been listening to this USI track and trying to work out the samples.One of the breaks is the Comin' on strong Amen, but at the beginning there is another break buried in amongst Doug lazy vocals and some drum machine hits. It's the same break as used in Men with sticks - Ode to a blunt (1994) It's really familiar, but i often find with breakbeats that if i don't recognise it quickly i get break blind!I suspect the break may be sampled from a hiphop track or a house/hiphouse track... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Not been used very much but I've decided to post as its quite unique - pretty certain it comes from this early Brain Records track, which incidently got a re-release the following year on the Raw Trax 12". However most people will probably recognise it from the remix on the Bizzy B 'The Science EP' Updated first post. That Men With Sticks beat sounds like a composite, not sure what it could be from though. Possibly a bit of Skull Snaps in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 What is that held chord in the background and twinkly flourish that repeats in the track, I know I've heard it before. Some old techno track I think. Does any one know?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Psyche - Elements Near the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Psyche - Elements Thanks!! that's the one. Knew I'd heard it before. Think I got a tiny clip of it on tape somewhere, possibly from Colin Faver playing on Kiss Great tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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