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#1 H_M_M

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:31 AM

http://www.rolldabea...teforce/kflp01/

you can get the zip free from the kniteforce site (http://www.kniteforc...usic/kniteforce), not sure how long i've had the "50 hardcore breakbeats" on my comp for, I think it was something moonkat gave me.

anyway, it's just some breaks that go into each other.

somewhere before 4:20 there's the (complete) 2 bad mice 'hold it down' which always seems to get sampled due to the very distinguishable humptydump break.
after 4:20 there's this! AND THIS IS THE BREAK I need to ID! because that is the 3rd break in 'hold it down' here it is..
break-id-june2010.wav

so if I can get that badboy id'd I'm laughing, I need to ask around on hiphop forums because that 'whack'(?) voice might be a clue.


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#2 H_M_M

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:43 PM

who has Rob playford's mobile#?

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 03:54 PM

well I've contacted luna C cause he's a friendly chap.
I know as a sample IDer this is kinda cheating, (i've already cheated in the past with Mark/Altern8) but after spending the last 5 days going through thousands of hiphop and britcore I've given up tearing my hair out along the way. if Luna doesn't know, you can bet high Playford aint gonna let the secret out still being on moving shadow and that.

that shakle LP arived today if any producers here want a decent .wav sample of that break.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:40 PM

http://www.rolldabea...hame-final-call

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:13 PM

ok whilst im on the subject of this 50 Breakbeats thing, let's see what else we can do shall we?

I'll upload the mp3 in a mo. Some gaps need filling!

ones marked ??? need ID'ing, some need checking

1 - ??? heard in 2badmice '2badmice', depth charge - silverfox, PLEASE HELP!
2 - Silver Bullet - Undercover Anarchist
3 - Eric B & Rakim - Pass the Hand Grenade
4 - Chuck's Beats Amen
5 - Eric B & Rakim - Rest Assured ("life could" break?)
6 - Addis Posse - Warriros dance (warriros workout mix)
7 - mc duke - I'm riffin'
8 - Hardnoise - Mice/Lion
9 - Addis Posse - Warriros dance + 4/4 kick
10 - 4 The Money - It's A Moment In Time (Dub)
11 - Kid'n'play - gittin' funky (uk remix)
12 - ??? It's about time this one got ID'd!
13 - Tronik House - Up Tempo
14 - ???
15 - Kaotic Chemistry - Illegal Subs
16 - ???
17 - ???
18 - ??? very heavy Think break with a flange effect
19 - Debbie Malone - Rescue Me
20 - Run DMC - Run's House
21 - ???
22 - ???
23 - ???
24 - ???
25 - DJ seduction - Sub Dub
26 - ??? Think break
27 - ???
28 - Big Daddy Kane - RAW '91
29 - Hardnoise - Untitled
30 - ???
31 - some one id'd this a while ago it's the 2nd gen of KC & the sunshine band
32 - NWA - Straight outta compton amen
33 - ??? Hotpants
34 - ???
35 - ???
36 - Eric B & Rakim - Let the rhythm hit 'em
37 - ??? 2nd gen Southside Movement - save the world
38 - ???
39 - Most wanted - Calm Down
40 - Main Source - Looking At The Front Door.
41 - Chosen Few - Funky buttercup (akai time-compressed I think)
42 - 2 Bad Mice - Hold it down
43 - ???
44 - Paris - Break the grip of shame (final call)  
45 - ??? think
46 - Ultramagnetic MC's - Chorus Line Part 2
47 - ??? 4x4 kick beat
48 - Skooly D - PMC? I can never remember the name of this one
49 - ???
50 - Mice/lion break + Hip this house break.

It's like a quiz almost!

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:18 PM

OK I've uploaded it.

webspace/ftp was being a twat and not uploading it proper.

her it here
https://www.yousendi...6QzdwM2xFQlE9PQ

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 06:15 PM

#12 = Tronik House - Up Tempo ?
#33 is interesting as Andy C used that in Roll On - would like to know this one for sure!

All the others are unknown to me, sorry.

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 06:18 PM

View Poststenny, on 07 July 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

#12 = Tronik House - Up Tempo ?
Specialjustin is trying to get this ID'd too, like you I suggested Up tempo. but we're unsure if anything came about before that.
http://www.rolldabea...s/page__st__180

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 05:03 PM

46 is the start of Tim Dog's verse in Ultramagnetic MC's - Chorus Line Part 2, presumably mixed with the Hardnoise - Untitled break.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:24 PM

40 is Main Source - Looking At The Front Door.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 12:38 AM

thanks guys! appreciate the help so far, will update that list a bit now

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 07:34 PM

View Posthumana, on 07 August 2010 - 07:24 PM, said:

40 is Main Source - Looking At The Front Door.

This one needs to be added to the breakbeats section. Phyzix - The Glide [Subjct 13] uses it plus loads of other tunes.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:58 AM

View Poststenny, on 08 August 2010 - 07:34 PM, said:

This one needs to be added to the breakbeats section. Phyzix - The Glide [Subjct 13] uses it plus loads of other tunes.
If that's Main Source - Looking At The Front Door then it's this:
http://www.rolldabea...too-smart-clip/ http://rolldabeats.c...showtopic=36983

Also worth looking at this... ;)
http://www.rolldabea...unky-worm-clip/ http://rolldabeats.c...showtopic=38028
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 04:50 PM

I can't speak for the Phyzix tune, but the version on 50 Breakbeats is definitely the 2nd gen from Main Source as they programmed an extra kick drum after the open hi-hat.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 05:10 PM

View Posthumana, on 09 August 2010 - 04:50 PM, said:

the version on 50 Breakbeats is definitely the 2nd gen from Main Source as they programmed an extra kick drum after the open hi-hat.
Yep, plus they added tambourine hits on every 8th note - that's how I always tell if a tune uses the original break or the second gen one anyway.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 11:57 PM

updated #2 and #15 AND #10!!

also got 3 and 5

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 03:52 PM

I'm gonna give this a try now, not sure why I haven't already! ;)

Whats that "1000 Samples" like, worth downloading?
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 10:49 PM

View PostOrnette, on 29 August 2010 - 03:52 PM, said:

I'm gonna give this a try now, not sure why I haven't already! ;)

Whats that "1000 Samples" like, worth downloading?

I'ill buy you a keg of your favorite beer if you can just get the 1st one!! ;)

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:57 AM

Someone once id'd #16 on Subvert Central but I've not been able to find the thread again!!

#18 is a variant on Kid & Play - Do It My Way. I'd like to know the true source of this as has been used quite a bit, by M Beat for one... but perhaps most memorabily used in Macka Brown - Go Down Baby

#21 is a big Apache variant used a lot back in the day, defo needs an id
Edit: Think I meant #29 here!

#22 a Kool & The Gang - N.T. variant...

#24 Neuromancer Drakey - Pennywise

#26 is that not Stenny's Heavy D - Ain't Seen Nuttin Yet? ;)

#43 Lafayette Afro Rock Band – Hihache

#45 again, a variant on Kid & Play - Do It My Way

#47 Tango & Ratty - Tales From The Darkside

#50 C Biz - Crowd Says Rewind (Scum & Bass Remix)

When was this breakbeat pack made? Looking at a lot of these loops it'd seem fair to say that the majority of these are ripped from old hardcore/drum & bass records. The question then is, what do you want id'd - the exact record they were sampled from, or the root source?

I'd say trying to identify and list every & any recycled beat loop is a bit pointless... Personally I feel the whole point of this forum was to identify those particular & unique loops that were to especially define the sound of the music, not every single bastardised offshoot with negliable, or inconsequential differences that have little relevance to the wider picture.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:23 PM

View PostOrnette, on 30 August 2010 - 01:57 AM, said:

Someone once id'd #16 on Subvert Central but I've not been able to find the thread again!!

#18 is a variant on Kid & Play - Do It My Way. I'd like to know the true source of this as has been used quite a bit, by M Beat for one... but perhaps most memorabily used in Macka Brown - Go Down Baby

#21 is a big Apache variant used a lot back in the day, defo needs an id

#22 a Kool & The Gang - N.T. variant...

#24 Neuromancer Drakey - Pennywise

#26 is that not Stenny's Heavy D - Ain't Seen Nuttin Yet? ;)

#43 Lafayette Afro Rock Band – Hihache

#45 again, a variant on Kid & Play - Do It My Way

#47 Tango & Ratty - Tales From The Darkside

#50 C Biz - Crowd Says Rewind (Scum & Bass Remix)

When was this breakbeat pack made? Looking at a lot of these loops it'd seem fair to say that the majority of these are ripped from old hardcore/drum & bass records. The question then is, what do you want id'd - the exact record they were sampled from, or the root source?

I'd say trying to identify and list every & any recycled beat loop is a bit pointless... Personally I feel the whole point of this forum was to identify those particular & unique loops that were to especially define the sound of the music, not every single bastardised offshoot with negliable, or inconsequential differences that have little relevance to the wider picture.

Thanks for clearing most of those up mate!

aha, nah, not trying to do that, just a bit of fun that's all, I don't want 3rd generation breaks lol.
to be honest I don't care about the #2-#50 that much, just #1. but seeing as there were 50 I thought I'd have a go at doing more of them.
If anywhere, this entire thread would look better in the tracklist section maybe?