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#1 eXtreme

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 11:52 AM

Bailey 1997 Darkness ID04 :


Bailey 1997 Darkness ID18 :



last 2 tracks from this mix : http://www.hardscore.com/?p=1631

Cheers if anyone knows them :)

#2 jj

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 12:29 PM

ID04 = Outer Limits - Mind Over Matter
https://www.discogs....4/release/35190

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 02:18 PM

Thanks, looks to be some undercover Peshay & Decoder. Cheers :)



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Posted 18 September 2016 - 06:44 PM

Yeah 2nd sounds likely Peshay as you say

Perhaps a further VIP version of "Warning" i.e. "Predator" do you think?
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Posted 18 September 2016 - 07:52 PM

i think you're right, forgot Warning had that same 'spider' sample as Predator.

i was actually referring to ID04 Outer Limits with the Peshay & Decoder comment. I think the wrong artist Outer Limits is linked on discogs. If you look at the CD version artwork you can see Peshay listed in the small print + in the German text, also mentions Decoder as the engineer.

#6 Ornette

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 09:28 PM

Oh yeah thats right - ID04 - its got quite a few similar refrains in it of his other tunes

It seems "Mind Over Matter" was also an episode of Outer Limits

So maybe he chose the track name first and decided on the alias later.... :)
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Posted 19 September 2016 - 07:07 PM

arne90 from doahas done a translation on the section about Peshay :

Peshay bot uns sogar ein Exclusive für unser Album an, “Mind Over Matter”, das eigentlich als kommende Metalheadz-Single auserkoren war, so lange jedenfalls, bis Goldie ihn bat es gegen “Phobia”, ein Stück, daß er parallel dazu fertiggestellt hatte, umtauschen zu können. Und da B-Seiten bei Peshay immer relaxt und jazzy ausfallen (er selbst würde sagen musical), einfach weil ihm viel daran liegt Licht & Dunkel, Ruhe & Rage in die richtige Relation zu bringen, seine zwei verschiedenen Gesichter, war “Mind Over Matter”, ein wütend lospeitschender, düster schwärender  Metalheadz-Prototyp plötzlich frei. Der andere Track aus Peshays Camp stammt von Decoder aus bristol, in dessen studio Peshay seine Musik produziert (oft hilt Decoder - Darren Beale - dabei als engineer aus) und ist als Erstveröffentlichung für peshays neues Elementz Label avisiert.


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Peshay even offered us an exclusive for our album on, "Mind Over Matter", which was actually chosen as coming metalheadz single so long anyway, to Goldie him it asked to "Phobia", a piece that he had completed parallel to be able to convert. And B-sides at Peshay always relaxed and jazzy turn (he would say musical), simply because it much mind is light & dark, quiet & Rage to bring in the right relation, its two faces, was "Mind Over Matter "an angry lospeitschender, gloomy festering metalheadz prototype suddenly free. The other track of Peshays Camp comes from Decoder from bristol, in whose studio Peshay produces his music (often hilt Decoder - Darren Beale - here as engineer from) and has been announced as the first publication of peshays new Elementz Label.


seems 'Mind Over Matter' was possibly destined for Metalheadz with Phobia on the same 12"

#8 Ornette

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 09:21 PM

Wow :o

I noticed you mentioned on my thread on Subvert Central a while back. I've half a mind to update it and submit it as a blog post for your site? sound interesting? Can't promise when though
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Posted 20 September 2016 - 06:32 PM

Yeah sounds good, whenever you get a chance give us a shout :D

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 07:57 PM

Very good track

Shame it's not available as a full single release

Did Peshays Phobia ever come out?

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 07:05 AM

ID18 is Peshay - Predator Unreleased Mix

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 09:10 AM

View PostBrendon, on 20 September 2016 - 07:57 PM, said:

Did Peshays Phobia ever come out?

No dont think so :(


View PostKid-b, on 21 September 2016 - 07:05 AM, said:

ID18 is Peshay - Predator Unreleased Mix

Cheers

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 09:51 AM

View PosteXtreme, on 19 September 2016 - 07:07 PM, said:

seems 'Mind Over Matter' was possibly destined for Metalheadz with Phobia on the same 12"

The translated quote is a bitt off. The german text says:

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Peshay even offered us an exclusive [tune] for our Album, "Mind over Matter", which was destined to become a forthcoming Metalheadz single. [There is a comma, but in the tranlation a full stop makes more sense!] Well, at least until Goldie asked him to swap it ["Mind Over Matter"] for "Phobia, a tune he finished at the same time.

The liner notes are not clear. Peshay gave "Mind Over Matter" to Goldie, but he liked Phobia more and both tunes are dark. "Mind Over Matter" was supposed to be the A Side and a "lighter" B-Side was supposed to be chosen later. So Mind Over Matter was released on the Downbeat in the Jungle Compilation. Phobia would've been released on its own on Metalheadz.

The Metalheadz release would've looked like this:

A. Mind Over MatterPhobia
AA. tbd

Edited by JVXP, 30 September 2016 - 01:40 PM.


#14 Ornette

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 04:33 AM

Well, perhaps "Nevada" was possibly the b-side, as it was listed in the Grooverider essential mix as "Jazz Lick", signed to Metalheadz
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Posted 26 September 2016 - 09:38 PM

cheers for the updates. That one fits the bill Ornette

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Posted 27 September 2016 - 01:47 AM

Thanks JVXP for clearing that up.

#17 Ornette

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 03:39 AM

In case I don't remember about it later, just noticed something interesting in that:
PHD & MC Conrad - Reminiscent Rhythms
http://www.rolldabea...t_grooves/ag001
is using the same sax solo as "Nevada"
And that would be the same as used in "Fight Them" also, that was previously known as ??? - "Find Me (Peshay Remix)" [Manifesto]
So I wonder what it is?
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Posted 27 October 2018 - 06:44 PM

Peshay's 'Predator' got chosen by Drumsound & Bassline Smith for Friction's back of the stack track (old school classic) a while back. What is strange is the tune they played wasn't the one on METH026 but instead the same mix as the one on this Bailey mix.

It's at 1:44:24
https://www.mixesdb....rum'N'Bass_Show