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#1 Dombrowski

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:47 PM

Does anyone remember hearing, or more importantly have a recording of a very early cut of this track.

I'm possitive that I used have a Jumpin Jack Frost tape, from one of his Kiss Fm shows, recorded in 1996, in which he played an early incarnation of the track that was later released on the Album Saturnz Return, in 98.

It was essentially the same track but did not have the 'ohh' vocals which come in after the Guitar intro.

I'm pretty certain I heard Ed Rush Drop the same version at a World Dance Event I attended, called ' The World of Dance'. Which took place on 24.08.96.

P.S. Just for the record, Ed Rush was  filling in for the absent Doc Scott in the Africana Tent.

#2 Ornette

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 07:14 PM

Yeah, I'm not so keen on those 'ohhh-hh's either

I know that is the one that Randall plays on his show in June 1996 here, which amazingly, turns out I did make a rip of just checking now (didn't think I had)

Goldie - Chico Death Of A Rock Star (Alternate Version).mp3


He doesn't give the id on it which I remember raving to my mate about it who wouldn't tell me what it was, eventually he did as apparently Grooverider had played it also.

I don't think there are too many differences apart from that and that the sound on the album is a bit softer and has a bit more soundstaging going on. Its definitely a better version though!
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 09:09 PM

Nice one Ornette. Once again you have come up trumps, Big Thanks!
Listening back to this version again I am instantly transported back to that world dance all dayer, Good Times!
That was the one and only time I heard this tune out, and Looking back on it I'm suprised I never heard it elsewhere, clearly a few DJ's had it in thier bag.
I think this version is far superior to one that eventually got released, and I remember, when I heard the album version, thinking, No What has he done to that perfect slice of Drum and Bass i'd heard 2 years previous.
It's a shame really when you think about it, even a track as complicated and well produced as that can still end up being over produced, and in my opinion It should have just been released on Metalheadz, instead of gathering dust for 2 years, and then eventually getting a revamp for a rather poor album.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:24 PM

Well, maybe not poor but perhaps not managing to hit the heights that the previous one did. Although part of the problem with creating a seminal album is the following it up!

It was definitely looking promising in 1996 when tunes started surfacing but possibly didn't quite manage to work through it.

There's actually a couple of things from then I wish he'd put out in their original form, such as the alternate remix of Black Grape - Fat Neck, or the instrumental version of Digital.

I know at the end of the Bailey "Virus Dubs mix 3" he mentions about having been to Goldie's house and going through his dat collection so its possible he still has some of these on DAT, certainly someone mentioned the recent retrospective album actually features an alternate version of Terminator, so who knows!
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:01 PM

I'll be there for you is a great track as is Chico, so perhaps in hindsight poor was a bit harsh.

It is after all, a lot better than anything I have ever done to date.
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I certainly wouldn't mind rumaging through those DAT tapes though.

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 03:12 PM

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 04:57 AM

Another version in Kemistry & Storm @ Metalheadz, Leisure Lounge, October 1997. Comes in about 1:08:00

https://www.mixcloud...-lounge-121097/

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 04:57 PM

I think there is an updated version of this floating about

It's on the Dom / Goldie Metalheadz DJ mag takeover, along with possibly another (more amen orientated) version of unofficial ghost

Will sort a link / times out the next time I have a listen to the mix

I actually think Chico is one of Goldies most underrated tunes

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 08:28 PM

I'll have to take a listen to that Metalheadz takeover, should be well good.

Is the Unofficial Ghost remix the same one Doc Scott played at Sun And Bass? Doc Scott mentions he has done a new one as a personal 'battle track' for special B2B sets.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 08:52 PM

Yeah it's a very good mix

Possibly, more amen and less reece bassline?

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 04:00 PM

I've now listened to the Dom / Goldie Metalheadz DJ mag takeover (tracklist here), that version of Chico sounds a lot more modern. Wonder if there's any plans for this...

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 07:53 PM

Mind games remix too.... wonder if that will ever come out

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 03:51 AM

Turns out that SB81 made the new mix of Chico. BM1 from DOA says he got the info from SB81 himself.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:33 AM

I did indeed 😂

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

Oh hi BM1... I mean Brendon :D

Nice one for getting the info. Did he also mention if there are plans for releasing it?

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:04 PM

This is the dub your asking about:

https://www.discogs....release/4005176

This was produced in early 95. The start of the track has Goldie messing around with the left & right volume balance with sounds starting from one side and fading in the other.
Not sure why this version didn't come out as it destroys the later release.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 11:32 PM

View Postarne90, on 28 February 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

Oh hi BM1... I mean Brendon :D

Nice one for getting the info. Did he also mention if there are plans for releasing it?

“Easy mate. At 50 it's an old Tech Itch thing on Moving Shadow, which the name escapes me right now. At 55 it's Goldie's Mother. The Chico remix is mine, forthcoming. Niceone“

He has a release at test press stage on Headz at the moment so I’m guessing it the release after?

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 08:04 PM

You can hear the SB81 remix on the latest Doc Scott Metalheadz podcast @ 73 minutes