Angela Merkya Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 I have scoured the internet for info about this break and here is as much as I know. It was used on both sides of Dave Charlesworth's Energizer 1 and Dance Conspiracy's Dub Wars Chapter 1. Energizer (44s and a bit clearer at 1m33s, appears to be layered with other breaks and basslines including King Sun - Cold New Yorkin) Dub Wars Chapter 1 (20s, after the Amen) https://youtu.be/ZXxkVTEOGA8 Pretty sure it's a second gen hip hop break as it appears to be composed and edited from several other breaks and hits (which makes IDing it harder). The only other lead I have is a Youtube comment on a Dub Wars rip that mentions T La Rock/Mantronik. This would be plausible given the style of the break but I can't find anything resembling it on any of the album tracks that they did together (though it could be on a 12") Would be hugely grateful if anyone can ID this one, and super super happy if anyone has a clean WAV to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Ahh yeah, it's the one also from Made In Two Minutes It's a bit hard to distinguish what's going on in the Dub War tune as so much is layered, there's even a "hoola" from the Kool & The Gang N.T. break thrown in from somewhere, kinda random The correct break id is this, was chuffed to stumble on it some time back Oop, just seen you've mentioned the King Sun break, let me have another listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Merkya Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Ahh yeah, it's the one also from Made In Two Minutes It's a bit hard to distinguish what's going on in the Dub War tune as so much is layered, there's even a "hoola" from the Kool & The Gang N.T. break thrown in from somewhere, kinda random The correct break id is this, was chuffed to stumble on it some time back Oop, just seen you've mentioned the King Sun break, let me have another listen Hey much appreciated but it's definitely not Cold New Yorkin. There seems to be a lot of confusion about this because the two breaks sound very similar. You can hear the King Sun break on its own at the start of Energizer and then the break I am trying to ID comes in at 44s. The ID break is then played on its own at 1m33s without Cold New Yorkin. I'm pretty sure Dub War uses the break on its own without Cold New Yorkin (it is layered with the Amen than comes in a few bars before though). Made in 2 minutes is just the King Sun break. ID break is distinctive for having that extra snare on that extra 8th note snare after the first downbeat, and at first I thought I might be one of the beats edits from the dub version of Made in 2 Minutes; but I've tried editing it myself and it definitely isn't the ID break. Interestingly, GTO's Elevation (Troll mix) uses the ID break with Cold New Yorkin but I assume they sampled it from Energizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinny Reckon Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 I would say the T La Rock connection (if there is one) might be the loop that comes in at 1:38 in Dub War chapter one, not the break you're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornette Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 I'm pretty sure Dub War uses the break on its own without Cold New Yorkin (it is layered with the Amen than comes in a few bars before though). I will need to try & cut out that break from the Energizer track and slow it down to listen, unfortunately this computer I'm using doesn't do mix audio record! Interestingly that Energizer track actually uses a different segment of Cold New Yorkin to all the other usages I've heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 I cut out the break (i hope its the right bit) and slowed it down for you. -5 semitoneshttp://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=10491365808373663790 -7 semitoneshttp://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=55132520142588797039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Merkya Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I cut out the break (i hope its the right bit) and slowed it down for you. -5 semitoneshttp://s000.tinyuplo...365808373663790 -7 semitoneshttp://s000.tinyuplo...520142588797039 A belated thanks. I've tried contacting both Dave Charlesworth and Dj Stretch to no avail. The search continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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